Thursday, November 12, 2009

The Saudi-isation Of Pakistan



The following is an article written by Pervez Hoodbhoy – an eminent nuclear physicist in Pakistan. My comments are in blue. The similarities are quite frightening.



The Saudi-isation Of Pakistan



By Pervez Hoodbhoy


The common belief in Pakistan is that Islamic radicalism is a problem only in FATA (Federally Administered Territories), and that madrassas are the only institutions serving as jihad factories. This is a serious misconception. Extremism is breeding at a ferocious rate in public and private schools within Pakistan's towns and cities. Left unchallenged, this education will produce a generation incapable of co-existing with anyone except strictly their own kind. The mindset it creates may eventually lead to Pakistan's demise as a nation state.



I think this is happening in Malaysia too. We do have our versions of the Taliban in Anwar Ibrahim and his Beemers (still around), the PAS, Zulkifli Noordin of Kulim, Hassan Ali of Selangor and also some of the ketua agama at the State level.



But they are not the real threat. The real threat is the extremism that is breeding in our Government school systems, our Government departments (the hijacking of the penerapan nilai-nilai Islam concept), in our public universities and just about anywhere else where the Government is involved. We even have a wannabe pseudo ustaz in the form of our DPM.



For 20 years or more, a few of us have been desperately sending out SOS messages, warning of terrible times to come. In fact, I am surprised at how rapidly these dire predictions have come true.



Its happening here too. The sentencing of Kartika, the jailing of Abdul Kahar to 10 years jail, the almost arrest and almost charging of Dr Asri are all symptoms too.



A full-scale war is being fought in FATA, Swat and other "wild" areas of Pakistan, resulting in thousands of deaths. It is only a matter of time before this fighting shifts to Peshawar and Islamabad (which has already been a witness to the Lal Masjid episode) and engulfs Lahore and Karachi as well. The suicide bomber and the masked abductor have crippled Pakistan's urban life and shattered its national economy.



Well we exported the best of our fruitcakes. Azahari, Noordin Mat Top and a few others swam across the water to Indonesia and became infamous. If we are not careful, some of these crows may come home to roost. Mas Selamat could be an example. When he was arrested, a few others were also taken in. Sudah ada support group.



Soldiers, policemen, factory and hospital workers, mourners at funerals and ordinary people praying in mosques have all been reduced to globs of flesh and fragments of bones. But, perhaps paradoxically, in spite of the fact that the dead bodies and shattered lives are almost all Muslim ones, few Pakistanis speak out against these atrocities. Nor do they approve of the army operation against the cruel perpetrators of these acts because they believe that they are Islamic warriors fighting for Islam and against American occupation. Political leaders like Nawaz Sharif and Imran Khan have no words of solace for those who have suffered at the hands of Islamic extremists. Their tears are reserved exclusively for the victims of Predator drones, even if they are those who committed grave crimes against their own people. Terrorism, by definition, is an act only the Americans can commit.



There is much sympathy among our people in the border areas for the Thai Muslims in Southern Thailand. I have much sympathy for the Southern Thais too. But there is the danger that this sympathy will become increasingly fired by religious fervour. That will be disastrous. If that happens it will causes religious blindness which will not bring about any solution to this problem. The solution for Southern Thailand is in large doses of modern, scientific, practical education, economic opportunities and jobs for the Malays in southern Thailand. Religious education and a religious agenda will not solve anything. Just like in Pakistan, some of our folks here are already confused over this.



What explains Pakistan's collective masochism? To understand this, one needs to study the drastic social and cultural transformations that have rendered this country so completely different from what it was in earlier times.



For three decades, deep tectonic forces have been silently tearing Pakistan away from the Indian subcontinent and driving it towards the Arabian peninsula. This continental drift is not physical but cultural, driven by a belief that Pakistan must exchange its South Asian identity for an Arab-Muslim one. Grain by grain, the desert sands of Saudi Arabia are replacing the rich soil that had nurtured a magnificent Muslim culture in India for a thousand years. This culture produced Mughul architecture, the Taj Mahal, the poetry of Asadullah Khan Ghalib, and much more. Now a stern, unyielding version of Islam (Wahhabism) is replacing the kinder, gentler Islam of the Sufis and saints who had walked on this land for hundreds of years.



Its happening here too. People are being taught to deny their own Malay culture and become wannabe Arabs. Rais Yatim has called it the Arabisation of the Malays. It started about 30 years ago also. The nasyid groups, the arabic headgear, the tudung, the jubah, ana, anta and other arabisms crept into the local culture.



Here is some psycho-analysis. Pakistani Muslims also cannot compete in the real world. They know this. They also have to contend with India - which is moving ahead. Here we have to contend with Singapore, Japan etc.



Without realising the real cause of their failure (overdose of religion) they start to deny / hate their own culture and history – as though that was the main cause of their backwardness. And they think even more concentrated doses of their versions of religion (which again is different from ours) is the solution to their ills. They end up in arabisation and are no nearer to becoming more competitive. The same is happening here. The religious people are blaming our own culture as the cause of our backwardness. No makyong, no dikir barat, no wayang kulit, no music. no nothing. They feel that more doses of their variety of religion will cure us. Hence slogans like ‘neither east nor west, Islam is the best’.



This change is by design. Twenty-five years ago, the Pakistani state used Islam as an instrument of state policy. Prayers in government departments were deemed compulsory, floggings were carried out publicly, punishments were meted out to those who did not fast in Ramadan, selection for academic posts in universities required that the candidate demonstrate a knowledge of Islamic teachings and jihad was declared essential for every Muslim. Today, government intervention is no longer needed because of a spontaneous groundswell of Islamic zeal. The notion of an Islamic state - still in an amorphous and diffused form - is more popular now than ever before as people look desperately for miracles to rescue a failing state.



Prayers in government departments ? Sounds too familiar. Folks lets do an instant survey : siapa di antara orang Islam tidak setuju ‘prayers in Government departments’ sila angkat tangan. No one? Told you so.



Villages have changed drastically; this transformation has been driven, in part, by Pakistani workers returning from Arab countries. Many village mosques are now giant madrassas that propagate hard-line Salafi and Deobandi beliefs through oversized loudspeakers. They are bitterly opposed to Barelvis, Shias and other sects, who they do not regard as Muslims. The Punjabis, who were far more liberal towards women than the Pukhtuns, are now beginning to take a line resembling that of the Taliban. Hanafi law has begun to prevail over tradition and civil law, as is evident from the recent decisions of the Lahore High Court.



“giant madrassas, oversized loudspeakers, bitterly opposed to . . . other sects, who they do not regard as Muslims, Hanafi law has begun to prevail..”



Oh oh ! This is too creepily familiar. I just wrote about oversized loudspeakers (and temple bells too) the other day.



In Pakistan's lower-middle and middle classes lurks a grim and humourless Saudi-inspired revivalist movement that frowns on any and every expression of joy and pleasure. Lacking any positive connection to culture and knowledge, it seeks to eliminate "corruption" by regulating cultural life and seizing control of the education system.



"Classical music is on its last legs in Pakistan; the sarangi and vichitraveena are completely dead," laments Mohammad Shehzad, a music aficionado. Indeed, teaching music in public universities is violently opposed by students of the Islami Jamaat-e-Talaba at Punjab University. So the university has been forced to hold its music classes elsewhere. Religious fundamentalists consider music haram or un-Islamic. Kathak dancing, once popular with the Muslim elite of India, has few teachers left. Pakistan produces no feature films of any consequence. Nevertheless, the Pakistani elite, disconnected from the rest of the population, live their lives in comfort through their vicarious proximity to the West. Alcoholism is a chronic problem of the super rich of Lahore - a curious irony for this deeply religious country.



Violin kristian, Beyonce memang tak boleh, Michael Jackson cannot (unfortunately Mika-il has passed away), concert cannot, Saving Private Ryan banned (?) Semua tak boleh. Pakistan Zindabad ! Malaysia also Zindabad !



Islamisation of the state and the polity was supposed to have been in the interest of the ruling class - a classic strategy for preserving it from the wrath of the working class.



This is the best statement in Hoodbhoy’s whole article. “Religious fervour” has become a control mechanism. If the natives want to dance barefoot around the fire, let them. Ban fire extinguishers and shoe shops. Dont spoil their party. So long as they keep supporting us.



But the amazing success of the state is turning out to be its own undoing. Today, it is under attack from religious militants, and rival Islamic groups battle each other with heavy weapons. Ironically, the same army - whose men were recruited under the banner of jihad, and which saw itself as the fighting arm of Islam - today stands accused of betrayal and is almost daily targeted by Islamist suicide bombers.



Pakistan's self-inflicted suffering comes from an education system that, like Saudi Arabia's system, provides an ideological foundation for violence and future jihadists. It demands that Islam be understood as a complete code of life, and creates in the mind of a school-going child a sense of siege and embattlement by stressing that Islam is under threat everywhere.



Are the products of our school system spared from this threat? Our universities certainly are not.



On the previous page, the reader can view the government-approved curriculum. This is the basic road map for transmitting values and knowledge to the young. By an act of parliament passed in 1976, all government and private schools (except for O-level schools) are required to follow this curriculum. It was prepared by the curriculum wing of the federal ministry of education, government of Pakistan. It sounds like a blueprint for a religious fascist state.



The promotion of militarism in Pakistan's so-called "secular" public schools, colleges and universities had a profound effect upon young minds. Militant jihad became part of the culture on college and university campuses. Armed groups flourished, they invited students for jihad in Kashmir and Afghanistan, set up offices throughout the country, collected funds at Friday prayers and declared a war which knew no borders. Pre-9/11, my university was ablaze with posters inviting students to participate in the Kashmir jihad. Post-2001, this ceased to be done openly.



Does anyone still recall Kumpulan Militan Malaysia? They really existed.



Still, the primary vehicle for Saudi-ising Pakistan's education has been the madrassa. In earlier times, these had turned out the occasional Islamic scholar, using a curriculum that essentially dates back to the 11th century, with only minor subsequent revisions. But their principal function had been to produce imams and muezzins for mosques, and those who eked out an existence as ‘maulvi sahibs' teaching children to read the Quran.



The Afghan jihad changed everything. During the war against the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan, madrassas provided the US-Saudi-Pakistani alliance the cannon fodder they needed to fight a holy war. The Americans and Saudis, helped by a more-than-willing General Zia, funded new madrassas across the length and breadth of Pakistan. A detailed picture of the current situation is not available. But according to the national education census, which the ministry of education released in 2006, Punjab has 5,459 madrassas followed by the NWFP with 2,843; Sindh has 1,935; the Federally Administrated Northern Areas (FANA), 1,193; Balochistan, 769; Azad Jammu and Kashmir (AJK), 586; the Federally Administrated Tribal Areas (FATA), 135; and the Islamabad capital territory, 77. The ministry estimates that 1.5 million students are acquiring religious education in the 13,000 madrassas.



We also have madrassas mushrooming around. There are many around Kuala Lumpur. There are also thousands of suraus. The reason I point out suraus is because they are small and frequently slip under the radar. Hence it is easier for some local nut to hijack the local surau to suit his own zeal, fervour and flavour. We need to keep an eye so that no hijackers run away with our suraus that are built with taxpayers money.



These figures appear to be way off the mark. Commonly quoted figures range between 18,000 and 22,000 madrassas. The number of students could be correspondingly larger. The free boarding and lodging plus provision of books to the students, is a key part of their appeal. Additionally, parents across the country desire that their children be "disciplined" and given a thorough Islamic education. The madrassas serve this purpose, too, exceedingly well.



Madrassas have deeply impacted the urban environment. Until a few years ago, Islamabad was a quiet, orderly, modern city different from the rest of Pakistan. Also, it had largely been the abode of Pakistan's elite and foreign diplomats. But the rapid transformation of its demography brought with it hundreds of mosques with multi-barrelled audio-cannons mounted on minarets, as well as scores of madrassas illegally constructed in what used to be public parks and green areas. Now, tens of thousands of their students, sporting little prayer caps, dutifully chant the Quran all day. In the evenings they swarm the city, making women minus the hijab increasingly nervous.



The following is from today’s newspaper:



“PAS moral squad to go undercover in red-light areas



PETALING JAYA: PAS Youth members will discard their turbans and robes for casual attire when they enter “sleazy joints” to advise Muslim and non-Muslim youths who patronise such places.



Youth chief Nasrudin Hassan Tantawi said they were embarking on an aggressive anti-free sex campaign to save the “lost souls” and were prepared to go to such places and red-light areas to reach out to youths living in a world of sin.



“We will advise the Muslims on the premise of religion and moral conduct,” he said.



He added that the non-Muslims would be advised on the premise of morality, culture and Eastern values.”



So PAS wants to create the Malaysian version of religious vigilantes. They will not respect our Police or the law enforcers in the country. The question is can we keep them from taking the law into their own hands? Club of Doom.



Total segregation of the sexes is a central goal of the Islamists, the consequences of which have been catastrophic. For example, on April 9, 2006, 21 women and eight children were crushed to death and scores injured in a stampede inside a three-storey madrassa in Karachi, where a large number of women were attending a weekly congregation. Male rescuers, who arrived in ambulances, were prevented from moving the injured women to hospitals.



One cannot dismiss this incident as being just one of a kind. In fact, soon after the October 2005 earthquake, as I walked through the destroyed city of Balakot, a student of the Frontier Medical College described to me how he and his male colleagues were stopped by religious elders from digging out injured girl students from under the rubble of their school building.



This action was similar to that of Saudi Arabia's ubiquitous religious ‘mutaween' (police) who, in March 2002, had stopped school girls from leaving a blazing building because they were not wearing their abayas - a long robe worn in Saudi Arabia. In a rare departure from the norm, Saudi newspapers had blamed and criticised the mutaween for letting 15 girls burn to death.



The Saudi-isation of a once-vibrant Pakistani culture continues at a relentless pace. The drive to segregate is now also being found among educated women. Vigorous proselytisers carrying this message, such as Mrs Farhat Hashmi, have been catapulted to the heights of fame and fortune. Their success is evident. Two decades back, the fully veiled student was a rarity on Pakistani university and college campuses. The abaya was an unknown word in Urdu. Today, some shops across the country specialise in abayas. At colleges and universities across Pakistan, the female student is seeking the anonymity of the burqa. And in some parts of the country she seems to outnumber her sisters who still "dare" to show their faces.



I have observed the veil profoundly affect habits and attitudes. Many of my veiled female students have largely become silent note-takers, are increasingly timid and seem less inclined to ask questions or take part in discussions. They lack the confidence of a young university student.



While social conservatism does not necessarily lead to violent extremism, it does shorten the distance. The socially conservative are more easily convinced that Muslims are being demonised by the rest of the world. The real problem, they say, is the plight of the Palestinians, the decadent and discriminatory West, the Jews, the Christians, the Hindus, the Kashmir issue, the Bush doctrine - the list runs on. They vehemently deny that those committing terrorist acts are Muslims, and if presented with incontrovertible evidence, say it is a mere reaction to oppression.



The immediate future does not appear hopeful: increasing numbers of mullahs are creating cults around themselves and seizing control of the minds of worshippers. In the tribal areas, a string of new Islamist leaders have suddenly emerged: Baitullah Mehsud, Maulana Fazlullah and Mangal Bagh.



Poverty, deprivation, lack of justice and extreme differences of wealth provide the perfect environment for these demagogues to recruit people to their cause. Their gruesome acts of terror are still being perceived by large numbers of Pakistanis merely as a war against imperialist America. This could not be further from the truth.



In the long term, we will have to see how the larger political battle works out between those Pakistanis who want an Islamic theocratic state and those who want a modern Islamic republic. It may yet be possible to roll back those Islamist laws and institutions that have corroded Pakistani society for over 30 years and to defeat its hate-driven holy warriors. There is no chance of instant success; perhaps things may have to get worse before they get better. But, in the long term, I am convinced that the forces of irrationality will cancel themselves out because they act at random whereas reason pulls only in one direction. History leads us to believe that reason will triumph over unreason, and the evolution of the humans into a higher and better species will continue. Using ways that we cannot currently anticipate, they will somehow overcome their primal impulses of territoriality, tribalism, religiosity and nationalism. But, for now, this must be just a matter of faith.

Pervez Hoodbhoy teaches physics at Quaid-e-Azam University, Islamabad.



I am sure this article will attract some comment. Do keep it civil. Religious freaks, keep it in your pants ok?

20 comments:

Anonymous said...

Tuan Syed, SPOT ON! If you look at old P.Ramlee movies, man...it was a different country then.

I was caught in an awkward situation once, at a friend's raya open house. Biasa lah when being introduced to other guests, kita shake hand lah. A tudung clad lady refused to shake my hand, so my hand was tergantung awkwardly. Quite an embarrasment, since some guests noticed that.

Very simple; shaking of hand is a universally accepted gesture of extending friendship. If someone refuses my friendship; fine, i don't have problem with that. Anyway, I don't shake hand with tudung clad ladies anymore, whether business related, at social function, or wherever. Make things easier for me.

McPapadum

Anonymous said...

Its happening here too. The sentencing of Kartika, the jailing of Abdul Kahar to 10 years jail, the almost arrest and almost charging of Dr Asri are all symptoms too.

- i dont agree with you on this.
- mungkin kau muslim liberal yg tak kisah kalau hukum agama diubah sesuka hati kononnya moden dan sebagainya.
- islam menggalakkan kemajuan tapi ada perkara yg sudah dihukumkan dlm al-quran dan tidak boleh diubah.
- tak payah nak tunjuk kau moderate dgn keluarkan statement yg menunjukkan kau terbuka.
- kalau tak tau tentang agama tak payah cakap. itu lebih baik drpd seolah-olah cuba mengelirukan org lain.
- tolong lebih berfikir bkn lebih mencari populariti dgn sikap moderate atau liberal kau tu.
- aku pun liberal dn moderate jugak tp aku tak pertikaikan agama aku kerana aku tau hukuman yg tertulis dlm al-quran bkn saja-saja sebaliknya terbaik dlm segenap hal bagi memastikan masyarakat tidak melakukan perkara negatif.
- kalau salah, itu bukan salah al-quran atau agama tetapi individu yg menggunakan al-quran atau agama utk kepentingan diri.
- nilaikan apa yg aku cakap.
- terima kasih.

PRAY,IT WORKS. joe's blog said...

Religion has gone crazy. Everything for God. Nothing for man. Bah Humburg.

Hansac said...

Muslims make Islam look bad.

sampalee said...

Once mankind realised the Truth in the kithab,what problem can there be?It is only our wrong understanding thinking we are a limted seperate self facing others and the world.The Kithab only points the way round for us to see what we truely are.Upon realising that Tuhan and his creations have always been one NEVER seperated for a moment ONLY peace can prevail.The kithab holds the answer,PERIOD.

Syed Akbar Ali said...

Anon 4:22

Yg suka kata 'awak' mungkin biawak. Yg suka cakap 'aku' mungkin hantu paku. Itu cakap orang kampong dulu bila nak ajar anak muda bersopan dalam bahasa.

Saya yg mamak pun faham. Tapi yg saya heran, kerap sangat geng yg kononnya jaguh agama suka berbahasa keras atau kesat. Pelik betul ya.

Anyway lebih baik saya jelas sikit kekeliruan dan silap sebut anta tadi. Jgn pula org tersasul nanti lepas baca komen anta.

Anta kata "bab hukum agama diubah sesuka hati kononnya moden dan sebagainya".

Ikut hukum yg diajar ustaz, minum arak perlu disebat 40 kali atau 80 kali. Ustaz ceramah pernah kata hukum sebat 6 kali bagi Kartika tidak ikut syarak. Ini depa kata - bukan saya kata.

Yg saya tahu, dalam Quran tidak tersebut sebat 6 kali, 40 kali atau 80 kali untuk minum arak.

Actually Quran langsung tak sebut sebarang hukuman bagi minum arak.

Ini tidak maksud orang mabuk tidak perlu dihukum. Jauh sekali. Dlm sistem sivil pun, orang mabuk boleh kena penjara dsbnya.


Tapi kalau anta tahu ayat Quran yg tetapkan sebarang hukuman untuk minum arak, saya minta anta cerahkan bagi kita semua. Boleh kita mendapat ilmu dan fahaman. Terima kasih saja dulu.


Jadi bila anta sebut "ada perkara yg sudah dihukumkan dlm al-quran dan tidak boleh diubah" saya pinta anta beri contoh hukuman Quran yg mana satu anta rujuk ini?


Jgn pula anta mengada-adakan rujukan dlm Quran yg sebenarnya tidak ada dlm Quran. Itu tak betul dan tak baik.


Sebab anta kata "kalau tak tau tentang agama tak payah cakap."


Bahasa keras lagi. OK lah, rupanya anta lebih tau tentang agama. Bagus, semoga anta boleh beri "rujukan dalam Quran" tentang hukuman untuk arak (sebagai satu contoh saja).

Sebab anta ulang lagi: "aku pun liberal dn moderate jugak tp aku tak pertikaikan agama aku kerana aku tau hukuman yg tertulis dlm al-quran bkn saja-saja sebaliknya terbaik dlm segenap hal bagi memastikan masyarakat tidak melakukan perkara negatif"

OK fair enough. Tapi bagi tau lah sikit rujukan kpd "yg tertulis dlm al-quran" itu.


Jgn kita secara kreatif "mengada-adakan" rujukan dlm al-Quran utk sebarang perkara. Itu tak baik.


Kalau bukan dalam al-Quran tetapi ada rujukan lain, boleh tunjukkan juga. Tidak salah kita berbincang.


Anta sudahi : "kalau salah, itu bukan salah al-quran atau agama tetapi individu yg menggunakan al-quran atau agama utk kepentingan diri."


Saya setuju 100% di sini. Orang macam ini ada juga.


Contohnya Al Quran sebut org yg merobah-robah kalimah Allah dgn tangan-tangan mereka sendiri kemudian mereka kata 'Ini datangnya daripada Allah'. Ini ayatnya :

al Baqarah : 79 "Kecelakaan besar bagi orang-orang yang menulis Kitab Taurat dengan tangan mereka (lalu mengubah Kalam Allah dengan rekaan-rekaan mereka), kemudian mereka berkata: "Ini ialah dari sisi Allah", supaya mereka dengan perbuatan itu dapat membeli keuntungan dunia yang sedikit. Maka kecelakaan besar bagi mereka disebabkan apa yang ditulis oleh tangan mereka, dan kecelakaan besar bagi mereka dari apa yang mereka usahakan itu"


Jadi jangan pula kita ikut contoh orang jahat seperti itu.

Anta juga perlu nilaikan apa yg saya sebut di sini. Sekian.

donplaypuks® said...

The last paragraph by PH is very instructive.

Whenever there is a pernicious imbalance in the world, that inbuilt (by God) safety valve in the fabric of the universe will intervene to rectify it. Except that it could take a long time for that magic to work, causing many innocents to suffer badly.

Thus the fall of the Roman Empire, Napolean and Hitler. Thus the fall of Communism. Thus the pragmatic capitalistic change in China where once isolationism and doctrinaire Communism ruled. Thus the global economic downturn to teach USA and rabid capitalists everywhere a severe lesson. Rest assured that Isarel too shall get its just comeuppance if it fails to square positions with the Palestinians!

The problem in M'sia is that UMNO is striving to combat PAS's increasing influences by pandering to the same extremists' forces instead of holding a firm line to keep our secular laws intact.

Thus our AG and current and former CJ's and politicians on both sides of the divide are busy promoting the notion that the Syariah System can replace the secular legal system enshrined in the Federal Constitution!!

In so doing, they will only enjoy short term success against long term disaster.

Who shall cry if the Talibanization of M'sia becomes an absolute reality and we count as our friends only the possibly failed states of Pakistan, Iran and Afghanistan?

To paraphrase an old saying from prehistoric Helen of Troy's time, perhaps we should also put up a warning sign in KLIA, IDR Johor and Bukit Bintang area in KL - "Beware of Arabs Bearing Gifts!"

We should stand up and stop all forms of extremism dead in its tracks!

dpp
We are all of 1 race, the Human Race

Purple Haze said...

The comparisons are certainly notable.

Lets hope that Malaysians are better "enlightened". As the first poster noted, the days of the old P Ramlee movies were different and less divisive than the present day.

jon pour do care said...

Salam Tuan Syed,

Hitler fought in the name of God. So did Winston Churchill. At the end, all know who won.

So, these Talibans and alike think that there are doing God's work. Well, don't be suprise, the 'BANTALIS' are also doing God's work and they have the advantage because they THINK !

So, the morale of the story ! Don't think that you are the only one who is doing God' work ! God's work is not exclusive !

Anonymous said...

Tuan Syed,
i read your books 1-2 years ago.
it seems what you said inside the
book sudah jadi kenyataan.
malaysia is really going more and more to the
extreme direction.
wat can we do???

sad rakyat

Anonymous said...

kalau tak tau tentang agama tak payah cakap.

Now I know why Melayu bodoh. Sebab:- Kalau tak tahu agama, tak payah cakap.
Kalau tak tahu bahasa Inggeris, tak payah cakap.
Kalau tak tahu Matematik, tak payah cakap.
Kalau tak tahu Sains, tak payah cakap.
Kalau tak tahu cari duit, tak payah cakap.
Kalau semua tak tahu, tak payah cakap?

Nampaknya, Islam tidak akan kembali kepada zaman kegemilangannya dulu.

And stop arabization in Islam. Not surprise one day you hear some 'pious' Muslim father doing honor killing. It's bad enough fathers raping their own daughters. What's the punishment for fathers that rape their daughters? Anyone care to take it up?

Imad said...

The statement about the cults of personality really reminds me of the book by Chris Hedges "American Fascists", which talks about the christian fundamentalist movement growing in America. He says that a lot of their movements are pretty much cults of personalities where people like Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell are the centre of enlightenment for them.

When comparing them to the Muslim fundamentialists, he states that they are pretty much a mirror image of those Christian fundamentalists in America. And this article reinforces that notion.

Being from Pakistan, and just came back a few months ago from Karachi, i do feel like more women are going out wearing abayas or burkas in the streets, though most women in the more cosmopolitan areas with the Pizza Huts, cinemas, etc. don't. What's changing is part of globalisation, which is bringing in more cultural exchanges from both the Western countries and Middle East. So i feel that globalisation should be under further discussion when adressing the "saudi-ization" of Muslim countries.

Anonymous said...

McPapadum

Alah, tangan tergantung ni pun nak bising2. Heheheh. Dah nampak kawan tu bertudung, you nak salam-salam buat apa. Patut dah faham la kalau you ni Malaysian. Perempuan bertudung kat negara ni bukan semalam. Dah bertahun-tahun. Orang putih yang duduk sini 3-4 bulan pun dah faham.

Isk! Isk! Isk! Kamu ni. FYI, when you hold out your hand to shake the hands of those ladies, you are not the only one who's feeling awkward. The ladies pun awkward tau.

As for me, I shake hand jugak kalau the other party hulur tangan out of good manners and politeness. However, some feel very strongly about doing so. Best to just nod your head.

Mala

Anonymous said...

Sad to say today's Islam is optical Islam. Islam has been reduced to the way of dressing, to generation of hate for non-Muslims and in the creation of killing machines called suicide bombers as precribed by the ulamak and stupid, unthinking Muslim fanatics all over the world. This is the brand of Islam created by the foolish ulamak and fanatics. The optical Muslim. Suicide bombers are all acts. Is what we see. Do we know what is in their hearts? If they are true Muslims, they should know that to kill innocent lives is a sin.

Sad to say some Muslim men think they have free tickets to heaven when they spot a beard and wear a jubbah but still crave for the flesh and marry four wives like the Holy Prophet did. They think they can be LIKE the Prophet!!! They do not know that their nafs is in control.Are they really Muslims? Are they God fearing or nafs obliging like Iblis who allowed the nafs to take control of him by being arrogant to Allah.Have you seen these type of Muslim men? I have.

Some Muslim women wear the tudung and the abaya and are all covered and go around putting other women down by bad-mouthing through envy and frustration. That too is the nafs at work. Some Muslim women think that if they are covered is sufficient Islamisation. They do not attempt to pray or read the Quran.Ask around and find out if this happens.

Where is the true Islam? Allah did not say go around 24 hours all covered up enjoying yourself in the abaya.But will the ulamak pick on them? No. They are optical Muslims. They are okay and are safe. They will do no harm as far as the ulamak is concernd. Who is fooling who?

Sad to say, today's Islam is focussing on the external. The clothes, the beard, the jubbah, the abaya, the tudung, the way you mix with others etc. These are the easier aspects of Islam for the ulamak to control.And the Pakistanies are taking the easy way out.

The true Islam is in the controlling of your nafs and your thoughts which will automatically be reflected in your deeds. Can you ask a man to control his nafs for sex? The standard reply will be: 'How can? That is a God-given.' Or another standard reply which I really cringe at is: 'Man is made like that.' Bull shit!!This is the gross failure of the ulamak to teach people how to control their nafs which has resulted in the ulamak and people generally, taking the easy way out and they themselves creating a statement like that and brainwashing people over the years and now everyone believes that as the holy truth. Always remember Adam and the Forbidden Fruit and the Devil. So are people obeying Allah or the Devil?

This is where true Islam is. Can we control our nafs? Can we try to be less envious, less greedy, less proud, less arrogant, less everything which will make us so humble and so serene and make us feel the beauty and oneness of God??? For Allah has no nafs and no negative attributes. Can we? Allah has His plans and we are mere puppets in His hands.

It is Very difficult to teach Muslims to control their nafs. So the ulamak and those who think they are doing Islam a great favour bang in on the dress, headgear and social do's and dont's which are easier to control as these can be seen and corrected or admonished.

We need a messiah to make things right. No human can convince the present bunch as they are all gonner cases.It is a Club of Doom indeed.

May Allah guide us. Ameen.

Syed Akbar Ali said...

Sdra Jon Pour,

Can you do my work? Certainly not. Only I can do my work. Can I do your work? Certainly not. Only you can do your work.

Can either of us do God's work? Certainly not. Only God can do His work. If you think you, Hitler or whoever can do God's work, Wow! That means you must be up there right beside God. Colleagues in the office. Itu boleh syirik pula.

But who told you God does any work? I thought whenever God wants something done He only says 'Be and it is'. (Kun Fa Ya Kun).

As for shaking hands with the tudung and the beardos - I just avoid them. Less tension. There are millions of other people you can shake hands with, do business with, exchange ideas with, be friends with.

Please think carefully about this : the world does not have the time and neither does the world care about whether you want to shake hands or not. The world is running at its own pace. This pace is getting faster.

If you want to waste your life trying to figure out whether you should shake hands with a man, a woman, because she is wearing tudung, he is a beardo etc, no one gives a hoot.

And here is my final question : tudung ke, beardo ke, or whatever how do you know that you will be accepted as a Muslim? Ada Certificate of Guarantee ke ? 5 years or 50,000 kilometres or something like that? Siapa boleh jamin?

maggi said...

The chicken has come back home to roost in Pakistan. Talibans are creation of pakistanis intelligent agency and its partners. Now they bite the hands that feed them..very sad.btw,human beings are born innocent but become evil when indoctrinated!

Also, there are troubles in Yemen now. The shia rebels in the northern part of the country fighting the government forces and saudi army..more problem in the muslim world??

jon pour do care said...

Salam Tuan Syed,

In my last paragraph I used the word YOU and I did not meant to be you, specifically you Tuan Syed. After reading it again now I realised why you the 'melompat' ! (kalau kita pun, react sama juga !) My mistake.Should have used the right word. I have used YOU, meaning those talibans and alike (should have bracket it aside the word you)
My sincere apologies.

And about God's work, I really meant, perintah Tuhan. Can't find the exact word at that time. Another blunder I did. 1000 apologies again.

I do hope the above will be suffice to show what I was attempting to express.

Would be more careful in future !
My sincere apologies again.

P.S. Mai Penang kita settle ngan teh tarik komtar ngan putu mayom ngan gulai anak ikan. Leh settle kot !

Syed Akbar Ali said...

Jon Pour,

Noted and noted on the teh tarik too. Salam.

lordapes said...

Tuan,

Got a blog here that you might want to check out. A very interesting read from the point of view of a reporter.

"What people do is not defend their religion. They are merely defending themselves. The truth is immortal. They are not."

Read the whole stuff here:

http://amirhafizi.blogspot.com/2009/11/religulous-regular-righteous.html

Anonymous said...

Tuan Syed, I bought both your books. Daringly written . Salute. I pray and pray hard that Malaysians come to their senses and see things objectively for the love of the nation. Having read what you have written, no wonder I do not receive Christmas or Chinese New Year Greeting cards anymore from my Malay friends.