Please Send Me Stuff

If you have articles, information, thoughts you want to share just send it to me at ali.syedakbar@gmail.com. Please keep your articles brief, not more than 1000 words or just use bullet points. If you have pictures to go with the articles, that is even better. Towards an excellent Malaysia.

Wednesday, February 29, 2012

Mr Prime Minister : Ulamak Menyusahkan Manusia Lagi

After my Blogpost 'Making Incest Halal?' I received quite a few comments from not very happy Muslims. The following comment was sent to me by Dr Yati Hewett, an experienced O & G doctor who has delivered thousands of babies over the past 20 years. Dr Yati has put pen to paper in quite some exasperation over the silly behaviour of the ulamak type fellows and their followers in the Registration Departments and elsewhere who make the registration of Muslim babies very difficult.

As usual the non Muslims do not suffer such problems. Only the Muslims tie themselves up in knots and fall down all over their own faces. This is Club of Doom behaviour. Please read Dr Yati's comments here. I have a few more comments which follow up after this.

By Dr Yati Hewett.

Dear Sir,

As some one who has been delivering babies for the past 20 years I find the comments made by several parties that arose from the Sister's In Islam seminar titled ' What's In A Name ' last saturday 25 th of February very disturbing.

It was quoted that 85,019 Muslim babies certificates do not have their fathers' names.( NST 28/2/12).

Some of these babies, their fathers actually did the bunk. But there are a lot of these babies or children are living with their married parents in a loving home. In their birth certificates are written' information not available'.

This is a downright lie.

Their fathers had gone to the registration department but was not allowed to declare the births under Section 13 of Birth Registration Certificate Form JPN.LM01. Why can't the National registration Department write in the certificates something like ' Items like such and such as required by Ruling so and so as stated in Circular No. such and such not provided.'

National Registration Department (NRD) cannot do so because there is no such circular. Everything is done by word of mouth.That is why some Registration Offices are more harsh or lenient than others. Ever since this ruling came about 5 years ago, several parents wanted to sue. But they cannot put their hands on it. I am really happy that the President of the Bar Council said his organisation is initiating some form of legal remedy (STAR 28/2/12).

In today's NST , Puan Jainisah Mohammad Noor says now Muslims can declare under Section 13. This is what I mean. Everything is ad hoc. And she also said the NRD cannot do anything . Only the Home Ministry can. But numerous letters has been written to the papers on this matter over the years. Hasn't the Home Minister been listening ? What about the slogan ' 1 Malaysia ' or 'Masyarakat Penyayang '. Or is it lip service only. These 85,019
children deserve to know the answer.

I am beginning to wonder if today's Islam is different from Islam during the Prophet's time. The Perlis Mufti, Dr Juanda quoted that Prophet Muhammad was lenient gave the rights of guardianship to the man who owns up the child in one case. At the same seminar The Chief of Syariah Judge from Trengganu, Datuk Ismail Yahya said that the Fatwa issued by the National Fatwa Council is a muzakarrah which is not law binding.(NST 26/2/12). This ruling is unjust.Then the question now here is : Why must the NRD or the Home Minister follow the Fatwa when there are ulamas who do not agree among themselves ? Isn't there some one at all who sees where this all will lead to ?

I am also inclined to think that there are ulamas who led their lives totally out of sync of modern society. Why the need to put Bin or Binti in the birth certificates ? Have they been through airports where they have to fill embarkation and disembarkation forms ? Don't they know that computers cannot accept lengthy names ? Just treat the birth certificates as a civil document not unlike a car registration card. A lot of Muslim countries do not have Bin or Binti in their citizens names. Why do we have to be different ?

When I deliver a baby, it gives me so much maternal feelings. All I care for is the baby have a mother and father to provide a lovely home. All I want is for the child to live and grow up in a healthy enironment. This is a bit difficult whenever you take your child to the clinics or hospitals or schools when people start asking why the child has no father as implied in the birth certificate.

And when the Chairman of Fatwa Council, Tan Sri Shukor Hassan starts talking about inheritance and marriage akad nikah of the child being not valid, I really got blown away. (NST 27/2/12).

These people come from the low socio economic group. What is there to inherit ? Why talk about marriage when you don't know whether whether the child would grow up into an adult ? And he also said there is no shame involved. With due respect, Tan Sri should come down to earth.

I also hope the Royal Council should be more selective when choosing people to sit in the Fatwa Council in future.

Finally, I would like to suggest the Director General of NRD herself and the Home Minister himself should come out and discuss these issues before the figure touches 200,000. I am appealing to the maternal feelings of the present Director General. She inherited this ruling from the previous Director General.I believe she can make the difference.

Yours truly,

Dr Yati Hewett.

My comment : I hope the political leadership looks into this matter quickly. I seriously hope the political leadership does not try to solve this problem by asking the opinion of the religious idiots. They are the dunggus who cause these problems in the first place. Syaitan tidak boleh membetulkan kesesatan. Begitu juga tikus tidak boleh membaiki labu. . As Dr Yati says, these dunggus will not even know what is a 'Disembarkation card'. Just like they do not understand 'time value of money' and a million other things that have to do with living in the real world.

I will follow up on this subject again later. I just want to conclude this post by reproducing a comment sent to me by a Blog reader. This man's complaint is real. It is also not an isolated case. Here is his complaint.

Anonymous said...


My wife is an orphan. Both her parents died decades ago when she was small. When we were about to get married, JAIS insisted she produced the marriage certificates of her dead parents, otherwise she would need to go through even tougher administrative process.

I decided to bring her elder brother and two of my best friends to Narathiwat to get married. Subsequently both me and my wife registered our marriage in Gombak, only to be called for trial and we were found guilty for marrying outside the country, and each one of us was fined RM 1,000.

One thing for sure, I hate the religious authorities in Malaysia and I really think they are a bunch of bastards who make our lives difficult. Go to hell with their teachings and fatwas.


For now I want to conclude with just one remark. We live in an increasingly complicated and post-modern world. This is the real world. Yet we allow the most uneducated and the most stupid members of our society ie the religious idiots dictate over matters that only makes our lives much harder.

The smartest kids become doctors, engineers and professionals. The not so smart become other things. The school dropouts and those who cannot get entry into any kind of other higher education become the religious graduates, the madrasah graduates, the religious teachers and so on. They become the religious class.

Yet we allow these occupants of the lowest rungs of the intellectual ladder to mess up our peoples' lives. The Government better do something quick. Stop producing these religious morons. Do not give them any kind of authority. They just cannot think. They dont understand anything except their "katak bawah tempurung" version of religion. More later.


25 comments:

sampalee said...

Anyone can understand the kithab for that is God's will.It has nothing got to do with intellegence.Many of the great sages are illiterate.In the buddhist and Taoist canon,it is stated there is no differnce betweem a sage and a fool as all belong to the INseperable ONE As many objects can made from go[l]d the essense are all go[l]d

Anonymous said...

Mr Syed
I think the govt. should STOP sending students to study in the middle east.They r a confuse lot when they r back in Malaysia.

wawa

Anonymous said...

"Chairman of Fatwa Council, Tan Sri Shukor Hassan starts talking about inheritance and marriage akad nikah of the child being not valid,"..Ini pasal mewarisi harta ni..dah takdak harta dah nak bagi...yg orang politik, ahli exco dok bahagi tanah- tanah TOL lah, tanah kurnia lah macam mak bapak diaorang punya tu macam mana pulak, tadak pulak timbul anak haram...bila pulak kerajaan beranak keluar exco dan siap boleh bahagi kat anak cucu depa....

-thethinker- said...

"Yet we allow these occupants of the lowest rungs of the intellectual ladder to mess up our peoples' lives. The Government better do something quick. Stop producing these religious morons. Do not give them any kind of authority. They just cannot think. "

yg paling best ialah situasi ni hanya terjadi kpd orang melayu ( tak termasuk melayu liberal ) .. maka melayu terus laa hanyut , dan kita pun introduce DEB 3.0 , 4.0 etc... sampailah kita sampai ke tahap bangladesh , tahan sudan.. cina makan babi ngan keling terus maju kedepan .. Hidup Melayu !

Masmohd Darby said...

I fully agree with you Syed. They tried to be most islamic than Islam, the religion itself.

Non of my Muslim students has BIN or BINTI in their names. Only Malaysians Muslim have. When I travel my sir name become BINTI. Now who the dungus to be blamed?

Zaman said...

Dato Syed,


Tun Mahathir is a great leader. He brought a lot of good things in this country. Among many of his finest act and policy, one couldn't hide a couple of bad one.. and the most start one are the separation of law which are civil for non muslims and shariah for muslims. Upon my research, I can conclude that shariah came after the prophet wafat. And the clerics jumbled up the shariah and islamic teaching into a must abide law which they themselves couldn't understand the wisdom of it. Mahathir did the same thing. I blamed Mahathir for his 20 years of Islamic law inculcation without him even know the danger of his policy and vision. We are having this problems due to him and getting bigotry each day. Not to mention the ulamak with their ridiculous fatwa.. they stressed more on their ignorance such as tarian poco-poco. come on.. be reallll.. these ppl just sit around and talk talk talk about religion that they didn't even knew whats the real situation is all about. It's damn easy just to talk.. try be on the ground.. i feel sick when PM went to YDP and advice him that we can't and shouldn't put remembrance flowers at tugu negara becoz the fatwas said that its doubtful in terms of the shariah.. well najib, BULLSHIT! GO TO HELL with these fatwas.. you shouldn't tell me that i can't give respect to our fallen heroes coz they gave their lives to our good living nowadays coz the fatwas says so.. screw the ulamak.. God is in my heart.. and not from the mouth of ulamak.. we had went too far in interpreting religion.. Islam had been to ugly in Malaysia due to these so called clerics.. they can't even bother to respect each other.. screw them.. let them rot in hell.. they can't even brush their teeth properly and yet they want to dictate us in our living... these ppl carries stinking kayu sugi all around.. nauseating habits and dared to dictate our lives of what they think better.. come onnn!

Adim said...

You seem good at complaining about these ustazs and religious scholars. Calling them dungus lah, stupid idiot lah. What exacly is your own version of the law? Any guidelines? How does your version of law relates back to the holy Quran. Are those religious scholars really useless and good for nothing? The not so learnt ones like us would like to learn from the wise one, like you.

Anonymous said...

Tak cukup anak2 ini membesar dgn nasib bapak dorang - ia itu orang yg membawa dia ke dunia ini - yg responsible, dia di terpencilkan lagi dari society. Di pandang hina. Betapa kejam hukuman dari golongan yg patut menunjuk sifat2 kesayangan, faham memahami dan ingin menolong sedara2 se agama walopon dah sah sifat2 keupayan memikir depa (thinking capacity) kurang.

Anonymous said...

tn syed,

its not such a surprise that we keep on knotting ourselves.

where i live, i see the sprouting of 'islamic schools' with fancy arabic names in amongst shop-lots and tight spaces and i suspect, illegally-built structures.

no room to run/play/explore....and get a wholesome education through self-discovery, peerage etc (btw, I'm not an educationist). But... surely?

are we surprised by what is happening?

Anonymous said...

Dear Adim,

Please, you sound like one of the dunggus. Mr Syed did put his views down, see his post 'Making Incest Halal' 27 Feb 2012. His 'version' of the law, as you put it, is based on the Quran. Not like dunggus making up their own religious laws.

zaman said...

Syed.

Are you saying Rais Yatim is a dungu Muslim by banning Badu concert?

Troll said...

To Adim
What is wrong with you? Didn't Syed had show the Quran verse? The verse didnt say the baby need to be born 6 month after wedding to be considered your child. If it is from your seed then the baby is yours. Or did you have other book than Quran that you refer? In it you find statements that can overrule Quran?

Anonymous said...

Dear Syed,

To me the key factor here is the Islamists. They are a destabilizing and reactionary force wherever they spread their stench.

Malaysia's future is dependent on the elimination of this cancer on humanity.

Nothing in quran ever suggest that you need to have your bin/binti in your name. I guess this bunch of rotten brain ulamak "cut and paste" it from the sand dwelling ppl in the desert.

The religious freaks like to think that there is Arabic blood flowing in their veins because they are very proud about marrying an Arab, loves to dress, live, smell, fart like an Arab. Even the Govt is very happy about the increasing numbers of Arab tourists coming to Malaysia. Malays are too obsessed about being an Arab, trying to be more Arabic than Arabs themselves

All Malaysians should unite and get these zealots and Islamists to pipe down and behave.

A first start would be to confine the religious freaks in PAS and UMNO to the garbage heap of Malaysian politics. Let's be true patriots next GE. Send a strong message to the Islamists...you either live peacefully with the majority of Malaysians, or we will fund your migration to the Najd desert. It is certainly an investment for Malaysia's future.

Finally, if you really read the quran one will notice that the Prophets in time, all of them, be it Abraham, Moses, Jesus and some we do not even know of, all brought down to their people a RIGHTEOUS WAY OF LIFE and NOT a RELIGIOUS way of life. Think about it...


Melayu Geram..

Anonymous said...

To Adim,

Islam does not belong to the religious class people. Dalam Islam tidak ada konsep pendeta atau paderi ugama.

As a start, Muslims cannot membabi buta follow other people - read Al-Israa 36: Janganlah kamu ikut sesuatu yang tidak kamu ketahui kerana pendengaran, penglihatan dan hati nurani akan dipertanggungjawabkan.

Secondly, our religion is based on simplicity - read An-Nisaa 28: Allah hendak memberi keringanan kepada mu kerana manusia diciptakan lemah.

Thirdly, we cannot simply follow anyone blindly, not even those who claimed to be ulama or ustaz - read Al-Araaf 3: Ikutlah apa yang diturunkan kepadamu dari Tuhan kamu dan janganlah kamu ikut pemimpin-pemimpin lain dari Allah, (tetapi) amat sikit kamu mengambil peringatan.

For those who want to argue the meaning of the above ayats, let's not waste time because all those are ayat Muhkamat, ie. ayat-ayat jelas dan terang (unlike ayat Mutasyabihat).

This is what happened when orang Melayu hanya pandai baca Quran secara bersyair dan berlagu macam burung kakak tua - tanpa memahami sepatah haram ayat-ayat Quran.

Anonymous said...

Salam Tuan,

Jiran saya ada 7 anak. Depa org alim. Bini dan anak2 sumua pakai gown (berjubah). Termasuk anak laki2 dia. Dia selalu bangga kata anak2 dia org alim. Katanya tempat dia dan bini dia kat surga tu macam cerah harapan nak dapat sbb anak2 dia suma hafiz.. (baca quran cakap arab berlagu berdongdang)..padahal satu haram pon depa tak tau apa makna..

BTW issue dia lagu ni.. anak2 dia suma belaja tak pandai.. habih kuat pon Form 3 lepaih SRP terlungkup.. langsung depa pi hantaq kat skolah pondok kat kedah/kelantan belajaq ugama..

Balik2 teruih jadi imam terawih dan depa dipanggil ustaz dan ustazah...

Tapi bila saya tanya anak2 depa kenapa tak mo beljar tinggi jadi doctor ka, arkitek ka, apa ka.. depa jawab jadi ulamak adalah sebaik2 kerja.. sbb donia dpat pengiktiran akhirat pon dpt masuk sorga..

Anonymous said...

all ulamas want power? some think they are God's representatives ,they issue instructions using God's name and lot of ppl dare not question them- v smart

Anonymous said...

Adim said...
You seem good at complaining about these ustazs and religious scholars. Calling them dungus lah, stupid idiot lah. What exacly is your own version of the law? Any guidelines? How does your version of law relates back to the holy Quran. Are those religious scholars really useless and good for nothing? The not so learnt ones like us would like to learn from the wise one, like you.

Melayu Geram's response to Adim dunggu:-

Please DO NOT become like a typical Malay who thinks only those who wear turbans and robes have the right to speak about Islam. This is what is wrong with Islam. We create PRIESTS whereas Islam wants to get rid of priests. Wake up man and read what the Quran says. Actually the Quran is such a simple book. Do you believe that God sent a very complicating book to mankind so that only 0.001% of the people understand it while the other 99.999% need to depend on the interpretation of the 0.001%.

Adim dunggu, tell me, when ALL the Holy Books say "DO NOT COMMIT MURDER", tell me which part of DO NOT COMMIT MURDER you do not understand that you need a priest to interpret it for you?

When ALL the Holy Books say "DO NOT STEAL", which part of DO NOT STEAL you do not understand that you need a priest to interpret it for you?

And when the Quran says use your brain that God gave you, which part of USE YOUR BRAIN you do not understand that you need a priest to interpret it for you?

Melayu Geram.

Anonymous said...

actually where did the ulamas derive their power? political source or divine source?..they also need ppl votes rite

Anonymous said...

Bapak tak tau kuasa nafsu, anak yg kena hukum - how twisted is that?? Can sue the father or not? Sekarang ada DNA test ma. Ni fatwa cover line ni- as far as we know these are the most pervert amongst us.

Posmen said...

It's a tricky situation we face it here folks. Most of the clerics couldn't read english.. So what do u expect from them? We are deliberating in the international language whereas they are lying using arabic so called the language of God. I wonder what type of language God is speaking to the Japanese since they are doing quite well up in the east or the eskimos since God are also everywhere.

Anonymous said...

To Adim

The Ustazs and Ulamaks in Malaysia has succumbed to OVERDOZED in religion. Whenever they preach, they always come with all sorts of fairy tales to amuse the listener but most on the 'facts' and craps given are based on hearsay which were truly not God's
words. The best sory teller would always be the dungus ulamak ands ulamak wanabes..

Back to the issue raised regarding the out of wedlock children, read this
... Panggillah mereka mengikut bapa-bapa mereka yang sebenar; itu lebih adil di sisi Allah. Jika kamu tidak mengetahui siapa bapa-bapa mereka, maka mereka adalah saudara-saudara kamu dalam agama, dan peliharaan" (33:4-5).

I didnt see any 'anak luar nikah' or 'anak haram' here. Infact it mentioned 'saudara saudara kamu' lagi...kelas gitu

Remember Nabi Isa, yang dilahir tanpa bapa. Allah memanggilnya dengan nama Isa putera Mariam... none whatsoever instructed to bin or binti Abdullah..

Kita ni terlebih nak jadi arab. everything that Arabs do is heaven, until today we have been so much liwated by Arab and yet we didnt realised that.
READ THIS..Quran says..
Orang-orang Arab lebih sangat dalam ketidakpercayaan dan kemunafikan, dan lebih wajar untuk tidak mengetahui had-had (hudud) yang Allah menurunkan kepada rasul-Nya; dan Allah Mengetahui, Bijaksana." (9:97)
I rest my case..

Adim said...

Too bad I have to resort to calling you all nincompoops now. I asked Syed, I did not ask you. Of course, blind supporters cannot see beyond criticsm. They seem to trip at every bump, big or small.

Just like Anwar Ibrahim, Syed has his own set of groupies.

Maybe I should rephrase my question. How would the present system that you always criticize about be better in your own version of view? The feqah, tauhid lessons in the Islamic education system. Or the marriage syariah legal system, the NRD that you mentioned recently.

You said they are dungus, those who are part of the system, but you can't even come out with a solution. So, what good you would make compared to them?

Is whining part of a solution?

Anonymous said...

Ask the dunggus, why when you azan or mengucap you say "Ashadu anna Muhammadun rasuulullah" and not "Ashadu anna Muhammad bin Abdullah rasuulullah".

In the Al-Quran, Jesus is call by his full name, ie 'Isa ibnu Maryam. The other prophets all satu nama sahaja tiada bin except Abraham, his father Azar.

When a muslim die, he will be call so and so bin the mother's name before they kena tanam.

Kalau dari dahulu lagi masyarakat Melayu rajin bertanya the dunggus, tak lah kita semua terperangkap dalam masalah seperti hari ini.

So let us make it a habit or compulsory (wajib) from now on to question them or whoever yang suka berceramah atau suka mengeluarkan berbagai fatwa agama atau membaca terjemahan Al-Quran dan Hadis.

Anonymous said...

Adim, apasal you bodoh sangat.

The solution, bc states the actual parents name. Whether married or not, itu lain cerita. Do not penalise the child.

Anonymous said...

Our ancestors in Malaya were all bastards before the coming of Islam.