- PARIS (Reuters) - Islamist politicians in Tunisia and Egypt have begun to lay down markers about how Muslim their states should be - and first signs show they want more religion than previously admitted.
- Islamist parties swept the first free elections in both countries in recent months
- a key Tunisian party in the constituent assembly and the head of Egypt's influential Muslim Brotherhood both made statements this week revealing a stronger emphasis on Islam in government.
- .. Tunisia's new constitution .. draft called Islam "the principle source of legislation" - a phrase denoting laws based on the sharia moral and legal code.
- Egyptian Brotherhood .. said his group wanted a president with "an Islamic background."
- Secularists in both countries warned voters against trusting the Islamists ... Islamists would gradually insert more religion into the political and legal systems.
- Islam is described as Tunisia's religion "and the principal source of its legislation."
- .. sharia means all laws must be consistent with Islam .. . if those vetting the legislation impose a narrow reading of Islam.
- the draft was more Islamic than expected because "the public that voted for us is a conservative public that wants sharia ..."
- EGYPTIAN PRESIDENTIAL POLITICS
- .."the candidate must have an Islamic background."
- " Brotherhood ...to support someone who is in line with Islamic values and is sympathetic to Islamic law,"
- Libya is also transforming its political system
- .. Tripoli would take sharia as the source for its laws.
- Hundreds of Libyan Muslim Brothers and Salafists rallied last month to demand sharia law.
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Yippie...
Can they contact Brunei and follow their sharia law as basis?
Dato
Leave them be. As the Chinese say, good medicine tastes bitter. They will eventually emerge from the ensuing chaos when the people come to their senses. It's a matter of time and the people's appetite for idealism vs a full stomach. Even a place Somalia will find its place in the sun, eventually.
That's what happens when you have tyranny, oppression, corruption - people just get fed up and lean on to whatever other alternatives are available.
You think that Malays won't lean towards a more Islamic way of life when they realise that UMNO steals the country blind and UMNOputras travel in private jets, helicopters, Bentley and Lamborghinis ?
The modus operandi of thieves is very simple. Keep the rural folks ignorant. Hire the unemployable graduates into the civil service so that they don't make nuisance of themselves. Then hire con-sultans to spin the story of success.
And when the country goes bankrupt, make sure there is a private jet waiting to ferry UMNOputras to Perth, London, or Ottawa.
Don Corleone
Religion accelerate the downfall of Europe but they were smart to realise the danger of too much religion in every aspect of their life.
Now Arabs are copying. Good luck and it may take them ages to realise the danger. Malaysia...?.
what is happening to the muslim world?
politicians use islam to further their agendas.
islamists also use religion to further their agendas
militants also use it to further their agendas
different muslim sects also use it to settle their differences
dato, look like what u wrote in the book 'club of doom' is becoming true...very messy world!!
Another valuable import we can't seem to live without from the land of the pharoahs - http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2012/2/24/nation/20120224172833&sec=nation
Islam is Just. Never fear Allah's laws. Its the implementer we should fear.
Tuan Syed
This is a good thing that is happening to Egypt and Tunisia. Provided that Islam is not hijacked to serve a narrow political interest.
I strongly recommend you and your readers read the treatise and related academic work by and on Ibn Khaldun, on the lessons from the rise and fall of muslim empires.
According to Ibn Khaldun, the rise of a muslim empire can be attributed to the notion that the Government enjoyed a high level of legitimacy, in the eyes of the governed, particularly in the administration of the justice system.
The model provided by Islam, especially in the dispensation of justice, by adhering to Islamic principles in public administration (based on the tenets of FIQH) is both practical and effective.
Conversely, the fall of an Islam empire was to a great extent because of the debasement of the legitimacy of the Government, most noticeably and starting with the decline on the system of justice and public administration.
Can this level of legitimacy be achieved by and via the secular path. Most certainly can. The western countries proved just this.
In fact, it had become a tragedy that the westerners want the Islamic world to do just this. They have exported their brand of democracy into Iraq, and Afghanistan, albeit via very costly wars, particularly in terms of the human lives and sufferings.
The middle east had only seen secular governments since the fall of the Ottoman empire following World War 1. Has secularism served the middle east countries well? The answer was and is a resounding NO. If anything, it had germinated into dictatorships.
Using the Ibn Khaldun's thesis, legitimacy and dictatorships are of course diagrammatically opposed. Hence the Arab Spring.
I think therefore the Islamist approach to the civil governance in the middle east, particularly in the countries that had just rid themselves of their dictators, might just work. I certainly wish them every success, I think the ingredients are there. Had it not been for the popular uprising, nurtured and egged on by the Muslin brotherhood, these people would still suffer under their despotic regimes.
IT must be noted that young men and women were unafraid to face live bullets, because of their belief in Allah and Islam. Indeed they were slain in their hundreds if not thousands. They were only armed with their faith In Allah and Islam, and affirmed publicly with their shouts of 'Allah Akbar', and their solats in the street.
Given that faith of Islam and their belief in Allah had brought them to this stage, why are you casting aspersions and insinuating that their struggle is being hijacked by the islamists and the Muslim Brotherhood?
Care to explain!?
Economis Kampong
Dr Doom : I agree. Leave them be. My Blog is not read in their countries. My targeted audience is here.
Don Corleone : good observation.
Anon 2:06 : I think it will take much longer for the Arabs and Muslims to get their act together.
Anon 4:18 unfortunately yes. Its coming true.
Silvershamir, it is not Allah's laws that are causing the problem. Problems are caused by Satan's Laws. It is an obvious statement. The Quran does mention Hizbullaah (party of Allah) and Hizbu Syaitan (party of Syaitan). What if the Hizbi Syaitan claim that they are Hizbullaah? Worse - what if the people dont know the difference?
GoldTrex / Economist Kampong : what if the tenets of the FIQH (pronounced 'fake') are the source of the problem? Have you thought about this? As you know the FIQH differs from one sect to another sect.
It is a vicious circle. First they get screwed by the 'fake' FIQH. This results in their societies becoming weak and crazy. They lose everything - their wealth, their empire, civilised conduct. After that they become easy pickings for invaders, usurpers, dictators.
When they cannot stand the dictators anymore they go to war, revolt, get killed and stuff. The dictators get thrown out. Then they again implement their FIQH (pronounced 'fake'). And it goes on and on.
Tell me which part of Western civilisation or Western Law is unIslamic? Think about this for a minute.
SAA
The article in the link below is a very good leftist explanation of the Islamist parties' coming
to power in Egypt, Tunisia, etc in terms of their alliance with western
imperialism, and why they will not be able to solve the underlying
economic problems of the workers and peoples of these countries in the
long term.
Still, it does not detract from the fact that these various Arab
"Springs" were backed by the western powers to continue with their
economic domination under a seemingly more acceptable "democratic
legitimacy," in bad cop/good cop fashion, or what could be called a
"Plan B."
Members of the Communist Party of Eqypt and
other secular leftists, including social democrats were involved in the
uprising but were subsequently suppressed and sidelined in the elections
which followed, while the Islamists were allowed to come to power.
The Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt was backed by the UK's MI6 against
secular Nasser who nationalised the Suez Canal.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article29956.htm
It's going to be internal degeneration through and through from Algeria to Tunisia, Libya, Egypt, Yemen, Bahrin, Syria, Lebanon and the rest of the Arab (I won't call it Muslim or Islamic) world. Just what the Zionists want from their Arab Spring initiative.
These stupid arabs should ask for negara kebajikan la
Dato,
Remember europe renaissance and john calvin? Its where ppl think enuff with the religion and let's be practical in life. Btw what o u think with one ustaz that was caught with someone else wife last nite? Kasi busuk nama agama saja ini olang
They think by declaring 'islamic state' , all problems solved.
They think by implementing sharia law, all problems solved.
..for answer , check out somalia, iran..
worse, there in-fighting within islamist groups
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