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Tuesday, April 10, 2012

Reforming Our Education System.


My last post ("DPM: Report on education system review in 3 months") has attracted some perceptive comments. Thank you folks for all your comments. I am glad that many really clever folks read my Blog and take time to send in your comments. I think we all learn a lot from all your comments. There are plenty of people in our country who seem to have a grip on things. There is much hope for our country.



Till this morning, there were nine comments sent in about my "DPM: Report on education system review in 3 months" blog. I have regrouped those comments with similar content. When the comments are similar, it shows that the people have common fears or concerns. I hope the Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Education will take note. Finally, I have added my own comments as well (in brackets).



1. Anonymous said...Tuan Syed, Do our education system need any review ? only recently our EM/DPM stated that our education system is better than some of the most advanced countries in the world like UK, US. I think it is better not to waste money la, deficit is going to breach the statutory limit already. Tuesday, April 10, 2012 9:49:00 AM



2. Anonymous said... reportedly our education system ranked 14th place worldwide, beating US, UK and germany.. why sent children to oversea then..?? Tuesday, April 10, 2012 11:06:00 AM



(My comments : These are valid points. Why do we need to review our education system if our education system is better than the US, UK and such. Our education system is reportedly ranked 14th worldwide, ahead of US, UK and even Germany. If we are so good, then why do we have to review the education system? Obviously then all these rankings are ‘syok sendiri’ and do not serve any useful purpose for us. Why do I say this? Because the Minister of Education cum DPM says we still have to review our education system.



And can the Minister of Education also please answer the following news report from The Star. If our Education System is better than the US, UK or Germany then how come no Malaysian high school graduates have qualified to enter Harvard University for the past two years?


No Malaysian in Harvard for second consecutive year

KUALA LUMPUR: For the second consecutive year, no Malaysian student has gained admission into Harvard University. Datuk Dr Goh Cheng Teik, who heads the selection panel that interviews students for undergraduate admission into the university, said this was due to the deteriorating quality of applicants from Malaysia.

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“I called the Harvard College Admissions Office and was told that although they received applications from Malaysian students, no one was shortlisted for interviews as they are not considered competitive enough,” he told The Star. Dr Goh said former SMK Damansara Jaya student Avinaash Subramaniam was the last Malaysian to be accepted into Harvard in 2010.


Not competitive enough? Kononnya kita lebih baik daripada Jerman, Amerika dan Britain, tapi dah dua tahun tak ada siapa pun anak Malaysia layak masuk Harvard. Can anyone explain this? Please don’t say this is a Jewish conspiracy. And please dont say, "So what?" We must measure ourselves against other people. That is what is meant by the word "measure" - we gauge one thing with another thing. If we just 'syok sendiri' that is not measuring.

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The key word is “competitive”. Our education system does not teach kids (especially those who do not know) how to learn to compete with the world.



The following five comments No. 3 – No. 7 all mention the appointment of Malaysia’s Robber Barons to the National Education System Evaluation Panel. No one seems to agree with the appointment of some of these goons and Robber Barons to an education system evaluation panel. I mean what exactly are their qualifications? Either they have ripped off millions and billions or they have closed one eye and allowed millions and billions get ripped off. And these are the folks we want on our National Educational System Evaluation Panel? Lucu juga. Here are the comments about them :



3. Anonymous said...I am concerned by the names from the corporate sector. Tak habis habis muka ni lagi ke? Tony Fernandez and Azman Mokhtar?? Would Education now be another avenue for them to make money? Rob from us poor people? Kalau BN kalah PRU13, don't say we haven't warned you. Monday, April 09, 2012 11:52:00 PM



4. Anonymous said...yikes....names in the last para - for role models ke ??????

Monday, April 09, 2012 11:11:00 PM



5. Anonymous said...What a stupid joke la DPM is doing. Sebagai menteri yang bertanggungjawab, biar ada taste la sikit.. carilah panelis sektor korporat dari kalangan tokoh yang takdak isu moral untuk kemaskan lagi sistem pendidikan kita yang pincang. Ada ka letak monyet-monyet yang tengah dok sakau dan kebas duit awam dari GLC yang depa diamanahkan jaga?


Suka sangat la beruk monyet ni dpt pengiktirafan untuk evaluate sistem, dan sistem yang akan disarankan nanti pastinya yang dapat memberi manfaat kewangan dan kekayaan untuk mereka. Itu jam, Tony F buka pula kolej low cost, lima tahun lepas tu dia CCF dgn universiti awam pulak.


Tengok apa jadi kat MAS, itu jugak nasib universiti awam esok.


Takkan la depa ni yang akan sumbangkan idea untuk set module dan silibus bagi hala tuju pendidikan. Ditakuti generasi akan datang di bawah sistem pendidikan ini nanti akan jadi genius dan berfikiran kreatif lalu menjadi prodigy depa, perompak dan penyamun yang pakai suit mahal. Bang Din, jangan la buat joke dekat pilihanraya ni, gelak terguling- guling saya dibuatnya.


FMZ Tuesday, April 10, 2012 1:07:00 AM


(My comment : Ouch !!)



6. Anonymous said...Why the heck Azman Mokhtar needs to be involved? Wt heck he knows about education? Business dah tak erti as if he is gonna bring great help and changes to the education system? Tuesday, April 10, 2012 9:25:00 AM



7. Anonymous said...same old story. The education system has gone thru a maze and the politicians found out they can not get out. and so pukul canang/tabla dan lion dance lah to distract the public from seeing who the culprits are LOL. Bodoh koja tapi pandai zapin politik..loncat sana loncat sini.


Why dont they give the public choices for eg. English, Malay medium and keep the vernacular schools intact. Forget this perpaduan thing because when Bolehland opened doors for IPTS and private schools, only the Poor Malays / Chinese / Indians and Indons remain in Government schools.


Why dont they solicit public opinion ? ala election ?


And what's this nonsense of getting the aeroplane fella, the khazanah guy and others not related to eucation per se into the committee ? Baik panggil orang Jobstreet.com and employers association and the like. They can give eye-opening inputs...sheesh.

Jgn. lama sangat bodoh. Tak penat ke ? Monday, April 09, 2012 11:44:00 PM



8. Anonymous said... Start by bringing back PPSMI. Stop the bullshit that the majority of schools want Science and maths to be taught in BM - you didn't ask the students or the teachers, you only polled the administrators. Bring back PPSMI, then start from there. Godfather Tuesday, April 10, 2012 10:38:00 AM



(My comments : This is a valid point by Godfather. Why didn’t the Ministry of Education poll the students, the teachers and the parents? Too many parents and also teachers say that they were never asked about the PPSMI. Personally I will not ask students because a 10 year old or 15 year old may not be in a position to know much about a good education system for this complicated, complex, multi racial country ie Malaysia. But I will definitely ask teachers and parents. I believe the book publishing lobby which makes a lot of money from publishing school books has a very big say in deciding the PPSMI issue. At the end of the day, it is politics which has influenced the abolishment of the PPSMI. We have pawned the future of our children for thirty pieces of duit timah. So why hasn’t the Ministry of Education conducted an honest survey among parents and school teachers if we should keep the PPSMI or not?)



Here is the final comment:


9. Moshe said... Alo Sayed, It is very good that the Education Minister is making a review on the education system thus far in this country. Perhaps we shall know the prevailing standard, its weaknesses, its potential in achieving national objectives and so forth.


Remember during our time the education system was more England oriented and that generation were very very proficient in speaking the language - English. Most of that generation is, are, was, were anglophiles irrespective of which creed or race they belonged. Hence mother tongue was left to the nationalist be it the Melayu, Cina( notoriously the dong ngong) or Tamil.


But yet that system integrate and bond us as truly Malaysian with minimal perjudices and we were not polarised nor differentiated by our race or background. As the record stands our education system then was excellent among the commonwealth member nations and we were neck to neck with Sinjapor in term of standard.


I supposed the Razak report and several other reports on Education has in a way led to the state of our education system as today.


But what angered me most is the dong ngong group who until today and since before merdeka, insisted that Chinese language be made at par with Bahasa Melayu and stood stubborn with chauvinistic demands that Chinese language be recognised so. The malaysian contitution as accepted by all races accept that bahasa Melayu as the national language of this country though others can used their respective mother tongues. But this dong ngong group refused vehemently to accept this and a majority of their product cannot nor fluent in the national language. This was made worst by DAP who are keen to incite disrespect with the use of mandarin instead of the official language - bahasa at a police station recently on the breast grappling allegations raised by Teresa Kok.


I believed if the chinese continues to discriminate and disparage the national education system, it would eventually lose support and it would be very difficult to progress in our national integration and development efforts.


Sinjapor banned chinese schools, it was easy for them as theirs is just and Island state but ours has shoreline that make our landmass seems to be a phallic symbol with the Island state shoreline resembling the obvious.


Nevertheless, the steps taken to review the education system is highly commendable. Syabas and after this we shall know where we stand.

Tuesday, April 10, 2012 12:27:00 PM



(My comments : Thank you Moshe. The Dong Zong are another bunch of hungry opportunists. They too represent the Chinese book publishers, just like the Dewan Bahasa goons often speak up for the Malay book publishers. They are all in it for the money – perpaduan all can go to hell.


I learnt something from a young 19 year old student recently. The boy said that in his school (where he is doing his Form 6), the Malays sit in one corner and speak Malay, the Chinese sit in one corner and speak Chinese and the Indians sit in one corner and speak Tamil. All three races cannot speak English. So now they do not communicate with each other at all.


Up to the 70s the education system was still very English based. I think the education system at that time produced very good and capable people who could compete and function not just in Malaysia but also internationally. Now in this 21st century, Malaysians are increasingly becoming jaguh kampong – they can only speak Malay, Chinese or Tamil. They cannot speak English much.


There is another point I learnt from the 19 year old student. It is becoming an absolute fact that we are now less united as a nation. We tried to use Bahasa Melayu as a uniting language – and we used the education system as a method to teach Bahasa Melayu. There were a couple of things that went wrong. First we called it Bahasa Malaysia. It is NOT Bahasa Malaysia. It is Bahasa Melayu.


Secondly, while we changed the system to almost completely Malay, we did a half baked job. We still allowed Chinese and Tamil schools to co-exist. Lee Kuan Yew banned Chinese and Tamil schools in Singapore in the 1970s. In Thailand there are no Chinese schools. In Indonesia there are no Chinese schools. But in Malaysia we allowed Chinese and Tamil schools to operate. This meant that the Malay language policy was only effective in the Government schools where the majority of the students were already Malay.


So exactly what perpaduan were we achieving by teaching in Malay to Malays in Government schools, teaching Chinese to Chinese in Chinese schools and teaching in Tamil to Tamils in Tamil schools? Perpaduan apa pula?


But the biggest mistake we made was we let the quality of teachers, the quality of teaching and the quality of education in general to really deteriorate in the majority of Government run schools. And that is why hundreds of thousands of Chinese and Indians ran away to Chinese and Tamil schools.


Up to the 1970s, Chinese school enrolment was very low. The huge majority of Chinese students went to Government schools (including the so called Missionary schools). But after the switch to the Malay language in the 1970s and the deterioration in the quality of education at Government schools, enrollment at Chinese and Tamil schools jumped by the hundreds of thousands.


And the Chinese schools also made a paradigm shift. They transformed themselves from being breeding grounds of Chinese secret societies, gangsterism and fertile recruiting grounds for the Communist Party of Malaya to become high performance schools which gave young Chinese strong discipline, exposure to hard work (tons of homework) and very tough standards to achieve.


Plus, the Chinese schools also vastly improved the teaching of the English language. Today, the Chinese schools employ some of the best English language teachers and Chinese school students speak very good English as well. And they are very strong in encouraging music, dance and other arts. As a result the Chinese community feels it is worthwhile to invest money in Chinese schools. Almost every Chinese school has airconditioned classrooms and has much resources – thanks to strong support from the Chinese community. If it is beneficial to them, they will support their high quality Chinese school system. It is as simple as that.


So can we blame the Chinese if they want to keep the Chinese schools? They want quality education and they are getting it from the Chinese schools. Kita nak marah pun tak kena target. We will be missing the point entirely. Menteri sendiri sudah cakap bahawa 'our education system needs review'. Menteri sendiri tak konfiden with our education system.


Coming back to using Malay as a unifying language through the education system – well it has failed. If you want to argue this point, please go to Jalan Kuchai Lama and talk to any Chinese there. Or go to Kuala Lipis and talk to any Chinese or Indian there. Haram sepatah Melayu pun depa tak faham. Tapi dia boleh cari hidup, boleh kaya, ada rumah banglo, kereta besar dan ada duit. People can get along fine in life being whatever they are and speaking whatever language they want to speak. What perpaduan are we talking about?


This is where perhaps the English language can contribute some difference in Malaysia as a uniting factor. Its like this : a Malay will not want to speak broken Chinese to a Chinese. The Chinese will have the advantage because he is a native speaker. Plus the Malay feels that his language is superior to Chinese.


Likewise a Chinese will not want to speak broken Malay to a Malay. The Malay will have the advantage because he is a native speaker. Plus the Chinese feels that his language is superior to Malay. The same applies to the Indian, Iban etc.


But all races Chinese, Malay, Indian, Iban etc will not mind speaking English (especially broken English) because all are non-native speakers of English. English is foreign to all of us. And because English is the language of the world there is an acknowledgement that English is a very useful language. So while Tamils may not like to speak Chinese, or Chinese may not like to speak Malay – most everyone in Malaysia will not mind speaking English. I think we have overlooked this unifying strength of the English language for a diverse country like Malaysia. We must relook this angle as well.


The country should have a dual language system of education – Malay and English. Mathematics, Science and subjects like Economics, Accounting, Management should be taught in English. We have to keep up with the rest of the world.


Getting back to the deteriorating quality of the Government schools, we nailed the coffin shut when we injected an overdose of religion into our Government schools. School assembly started with baca doa, PIBG meetings began with baca Quran – as though our Government schools had become Madrassah Taliban Darul Uloom Haqqaniah aka "Suicide Bomber School".


I think even the Taliban will be shocked at the amount of religious indoctrination in our Government schools. The guru agama (if they have sekolah pondok background, sijil tinggi agama background or some religious qualification then it is most likely that they are the least educated and the least qualified among the school teachers) can over rule a headmaster with a Master’s degree over many things in school. The guru agama can say that girls cannot play volleyball because it is a jahiliyah sport where girls will have to jump up and down and make the men excited.


The guru agama can organise qiyamul laili where students taking exams are made to believe that praying late into the night will earn them better grades. There are also cases of ‘guru agama’ who sell kismis ajaib to their students. Folks, I am so sorry to break this news to you but air jampi and kismis ajaib cannot make students score even half an A. Plus the Chinese and Indian kids also get 10As without even qiyamul laili.


The religious indoctrination is the final nail in the coffin for the Government education system in Malaysia. I hope that when Tan Sri Muhyuddin Yassin undertakes the review of the Education System, the Government will remove religious indoctrination in our school system.


Plus we cannot even be sure that what the religious teachers teach is 100% correct. Shiah kata lain, Salafi kata lain, Tarekat kata lain, Tableeg kata lain, Wahabi kata lain, Syafiee kata lain, Hanafi kata lain, Maliki kata lain. Semua lain-lain.


It is best to go back to the system used by our fathers and grandfathers – religion should be taught at home by parents to their children. (Kalau parents tak reti pasal agama, boleh hantar anak belajar dengan ustaz or ustazah or go to the surau, guna duit sendiri). And then most important of all, religion should stay at home. There is an overdose of religion in our public sphere.


Finally if we want to fully reform our Education System, we must pay very, very close attention to the quality of our teachers. I think this is another huge factor affecting our education system. The quality of our teachers.


Now, don’t get upset or get excited. I want to speak plainly here. If it hurts some peoples’ feelings I don’t know what to say but I think these are simple observations which I have seen with my own eyes.


Very often also teaching is a last choice option for SPM leavers who could not do anything better in life. So it is not by choice that many young people become teachers. It is by necessity. They have no other options. Even university graduates who become teachers often do so because they don’t have any other choice. After being turned down by JPA, PTD, GLC etc they may just try to get a job as a teacher. Some of the guys would also prefer ‘jadi Polis’ or ‘jadi Askar’ first before becoming cikgu. Its a last choice option.


Actually this should not be a problem at all. Not matter what their background, no matter whether they have a choice or no choice, it is our job to make sure that all our teachers are properly trained. But it is also important to detoxify teachers from any toxic ideas and toxic belief systems they may have with them which can infect their students.


Its like this - besides parents, especially mothers, it is the school teachers who should be the moving force to create a modern, dynamic, progressive and competitive nation. And especially in developing countries, teachers should be the main locomotives to modernise a society which is not yet modernised.


Therefore teachers should not only teach everything that is modern but teachers themselves should be modern, scientific and progressive. Kalau cikgu sekolah sendiri menjadi bejana pemikiran jumud, berbudaya yang ketinggalan zaman then how is the cikgu going to modernise his or her students? This is what is NOT happening in Malaysia.


Because you have teachers who come from all parts of the country, bringing with them whatever indoctrination was put inside their heads in the places where they come from.

If a teacher hails from a Kampong Memali type place, it is most likely that she will still be indoctrinated with the strong religious indoctrination that was or is prevalent there. Tudung mesti labuh, bahasa Inggeris bahasa kafir, musik itu mainan syaitan, perempuan tak boleh main volleyball and all the other backward, un-modern, unscientific indoctrination that you would expect from a place like a Memali. (Yes I know this is not an exactly 100% accurate description but I think you can understand what I mean).


The same goes for teachers who are from parts of the country that are still lagging behind the rest of the country or the rest of the world. People in those parts are still lagging behind (economically and socially) exactly because they are not scientific and not modern enough.


So if we have young teachers coming from these parts of the country we must make sure that these teachers leave behind those belief systems that made their communities lag behind the others in the first place. If we do not modernise the teacher from Memali, Bachok or Selama and we send them to teach in a school in Bangsar, pretty soon we will have a mini-Memali or a mini-Bachok even in Bangsar. I think this is happening already.


I am not saying that folks from Memali cannot become teachers. What I am saying is that if Memali is still Memali, it is because they are not modern, progressive or scientific enough. In conclusion, Memali or no, we have a duty to train our teachers and make sure that our teachers are as modern, progressive and scientific as possible – irrespective of where they came from.


Unfortunately I think our education system (referring especially to the Government schools) has gone quite in the opposite direction. Many of our teachers are not as modern, progressive or scientific.


If there is an overdose of religious, parochial and cultural indoctrination it means that teachers may not be the desired agents of progress and modernisation that we need to keep up with the 21st century. Considering the huge influence they have on our kids, teachers can become agents of reverse indoctrination. Be careful.


Folks, this is the 21st century already. Kalau tak percaya, please check your calendar. The Chinese schools are already aiming for the 22nd century. The private schools and the International schools are also getting to the 22nd century. The Gomen schools are heading towards the 7th century. I think the Minister of Education knows the problem. That is why he says we have to review the education system, the 14th best education system in the world - better than US, UK and Germany.



38 comments:

Anonymous said...

Why are the Maktab Rendah Sains Mara still allowed to use English as the main medium of instruction? The rest of the govrnment schools have been told to abolish PPSMI. What is the explanation by Muhyuddin? So all the clever Malays only can learn in English. The not clever Malays cannot learn in English. The Malay College Kuala Kangsar also still learn in English. Also Royal Military College Putra wing.

The UITM also still teaches all subjects in English. Why so special? All other Malays and Chinese and Indians cannot learn in English.

dannalli said...

This is a good read which appeared on last Friday's TheSun written by Tricia Yeoh.

For those who missed it, just copy the link ... http://thesun-epaper.com/fri/06042012/index.html#/15/zoomed

Anonymous said...

Bravo Tuan Syed!

You are certainly spot on!

I hope our Dr Ridhuan Tee is reading your blog as well. Hopefully the pious Dr Tee wil learn a thing or two from you. That Taliban kangkung professor has been whacking the vernacular schools left, right & center.

Your articulations will hopefully knock some sense back to his head.

Camelot

Anonymous said...

I couldn't agree more that less achiever will choose teacher as profession.they not even sincere with their job hence all the complaints about salary and all.degree teacher now making 3k and what they really contribute to nation?
To unite the nation.simple.scrap all the vernakular school and what the hell with chinese and indian culture?culture,religion is parent job.
My memory of teachers is really bad.I only remembered them as people that threat students to abide the rule.yes!threatening with " ilmu x halal and x pass spm"!.my neighbor teacher so rude to elderly and they gossip a lot!so please don't be suprise when no more student accepted to havard!

Not too late... said...

We need the Finnish system - http://www.jsonline.com/news/education/finland-puts-bar-high-for-teachers-kids-wellbeing-qa2tbfr-134546548.html. It's about getting the right teachers and empowering them.

Anonymous said...

Sir,

You are essentially trying to change the Malay.

Didn't TunM 'tried' that already?

We are now seeing the effects of his policies - pandang timur, abc, name tag, dll.

Anonymous said...

Tuan Syed very well said and written. 10000000% agree.

Btw got a piece of news. Got out from a meeting today at Axiata.

Top down direction from govt and Bursa that Axiata MUST ( take note pls , they MUST) support SMEs to achieve and contribute to 40% country GDP.

Wat a joke. Mentah mentah Axiata making money, so cari lah jalan to songlap the moolah!!!!!!!!

Shuk said...

The root cause of all the problems that we have here in Bolehland......the dunggu education system.....it may be too late to change it but there is always the first time.....so for the sake of our future generation,please start cracking or we will be doomed forever...better late than never.

Anonymous said...

You write a very good arguments about the deteriorate of government school nowadays Tuan Syed. Year by year number of students who achieved 10A, or more increased but the MOE minister himself gives a contradicting statement to reviewed our education system. Why talk so arrogant about 10As and more, yet in the same time we say that our education system needs to be reviewed? Thats 10A because passing mark is 5 ka?

And I agree that abolishment of PPMSI just based on the request by teachers/ administrator of schools and not by a survey from majority of parents/ students. Because of majority of teachers themselves cannot speak good english, and do not have abilities to teach the said subjects in english ( remember, majority of teachers nowadays are hopeless who doesnt get any better job to repay for their PTPTN loans )

Our education system is just like a ferris wheel, come one minister, new policy, come another minister, new policy, and its just goes round and round, please dont mix politics and education oh minister, I know u desperately need teachers votes to win....

Anonymous said...

What anon 6:15 said is true. UiTM is using English 100%. Maybe it was set up by new Melayu....I don't know....Even TS Arshad Ayub at one time mentioned, student of UiTM is to fulfill the private industries, entrepreneurship and NOT govt office.

It is a culture shock to many student from govt schools. But they (100% bumi) have to work hard for it....which is good....I hope those Bahasa Kebangsaan warriors will stay away from UiTM. My point is student at primary & secondary do not know what best for them, give them back the PPSMI, they will excel.

Another worry and I agreed with Syed on the overdose religous indoctrin, IPTA nowadays is like the madrassah. Students are now busy with usrah instead of their main subject of studies. More usrah will comes as when they allow students to join the political parties very soon......you know which party lah... This time not only the teacher with MBA, the PhD lecturers/prof also will follow.

Anonymous said...

Am for removing religious indoctrinations from the classes. Stop poisoning our young kids mind! 2 decades of holy-holy brainwashing the problem is getting worst amongst the generasi muda. I want the guru agama/ustas/ustazah to stay away from my kids as far as possible.

Anonymous said...

Another prob is, those excellent students become engineers, doctors etc.

Not so clever have to take religious studies and as usual no jobs and the last choice is to become teacher lah. So they rule over the govt. school and indoctrin the students again.....

Anonymous said...

Mr Syed , respect hang ... hope your blog will one day come true .. so i have no head ache to sent my son to Alice Smith type of school ... SRK to much religous element ....equal no fun my son become dungu .... SRJK to much work my son grow up and will be a patience to pakar sakit jiwa..
MY MOM IN LAW STILL DONT KNOW I HAVE TATOO ON MY BACK FULL BACK !!!!
How i wish u will be the PM one day but u and i know, it wont happen cause u are not corrupted

Anonymous said...

Reform the education system? Just restore the old education system before it was wrecked during the Mahathir years and we all will be fine.

Bring back MCE and HSC then everyone will be so happy! Why is it so hard to go back to yester-years?

sampalee said...

This is the end result of poor government policy.The biggest blunder is during the time of AI as education minister

Anonymous said...

well done Tuan Syed. Very analysis and constuctive points noted.

The generations that were created from the English medium schools back then were outstanding and I dont think their patriotism and love for the Bahasa Kebangsaan were affected at all just because they learned in .english.

We want to create world class leaders so speak the language of the world.

Whats this unnecessary defenders of the Malay language. They think Malays are stupid ka? If learn in English, does that mean we forget Malay language?? Want your children get good job or not?? Want your chikdren to get big salary or not?? How to employ if the Malays cannot speaking de London??

The most worrying part is that youll notice that the young Malays, feel ashamed to speak in english. There is a sense of humiliation if a Malay speaks or try to speak in English. .why is that!? Its because they never listen to themselves speaking English... its so foreign!!

Tuan Syed, youre spot on on so many points of our Education review. DPM should put you in one of his review teams.

Concerned Citizen

Anonymous said...

Totally agree.
. Bring back the old English medium school.
. Bring back sports and performing arts and music
. Bring back TataRakyat. Citizens must be taught about the Constitution and their responsibility as citizens!
. No religion class in school. Ugama class should be a separate additional school parents can provide. This systems was well practiced in Johor and Kedah before where students attend afternoon ugama classes in the afternoons in Johor and it Kedah it is a half dayon Saturdays.
. Yes please stop the indoctrination of Arab traditions. Teachers should stop harassing students from wearing skirts.

I live in Bangsar and I saw the deterioration of Bangsar school that I had to take my children to Private School. Two things I found --- students in private school MUST participate in sports and Must learn music and Art. My kids were happier but the private school too are exam focused. Teachers are mainly from government school with same mentality-- they are not educationers.

I now moved the kids to International school -- what I find most rewarding is the International school is more student centric. There is acknowledgement that each individual student is different. Kids are taught to be ladies and gentlemen, not by specific moral classes, but by a code of behaviour expectations that is embedded in school activities. There lots of sports and music and performances.

I am not sure if my kids willbe more successful because they left Bangsar school but I know I have given them a better environment to learn from.

Anonymous said...

i wonder if it would be possible to teach tamil and mandarin in the first three years of primary school... sometimes i feel it is such a loss to live in a multicultural country and lack even the basic linguistic skills... most europeans speak a minimum of 3 languages (english, 2 EU languages)...

Anonymous said...

Anon 12.31,

Mahathir didn't wreck the education system. The person who wrecked the education system was that traitor Anwar Ibrahim who was the Minister of Education in 1986.

Anonymous said...

with regards to item 9 whereby moshe claimed that Singapore Gov closed chinese schools. Untrue, they did not. SG Parents realised that english education gave better employment opportunites and enrollment dropped till chinese education died a natural death in the late 70's.

This was also happening in bolehland as well till the national schools switched to malay.

But the SG malays kept sending their kids to madrasahs.The madrasahs in singapore lives on till today, unlike the chinese schools. Sg gov did not close them.

Up until recently the SG madrasahs taught in malay and arabic with a lot of religious subjects such that their graduates could not find proper employment. The Sg gov then stepped in and insisted that they must teach science and maths in english. For the students own future good and not for nation building reasons.

Sounds familiar?

Johorean

Anonymous said...

Tuan Syed,

Sometime ago a person said this to me...
(Group A) All the intelligent student graduate from high school and colleage and become engineers, doctors, architects etc..

(Group B) The at par student (slightly better than average) graduate highschool and colleage and becomes lawyers, accountants or management, and they will harrased the people from Group A

(Group C) The average student in highschool and colleage graduate and becomes politicians or work in governemtn office, and their job is to harrased those in Group A and Group B

(Group D) Those students that just barely pass highschool and could not enrol into college, continue to become religieous teachers/ustaz/ustazah or etc, and they job is to harrased and mess with Group A, Group B and Group C.

More and more each day i see this is happening in our country. End of the day, the student that has the lesser intelligent among all the Group, is dictating how things are and should be.

Melayu Lama said...

Bahasa Melayu is unsuitable for commerce/trade/business/workplace. Malay speaking employees in the service sector these days will always address customers as "Abang" or "Kakak" which is highly informal and inappropriate. I find that if the work place is more formal, they'll take their jobs a lot more seriously. Personal experience have shown that a McDonald's or Kfc counter staff addressing someone as "Encik" "Cik" or "Puan" has less tendency to screw up their orders as opposed to the majority of "Abang/Kakak" types. In English there is "Sir" "Miss" "Madam" and no such use of "Bro" at the counters. Malay language has too much informal kampong abang/kakak values in it. Appropiate for personal use not professional use.... Revert back to English and we'll see a change for the better!

Anonymous said...

worse,the malay nationalists argue that english threaten B.M but no problems when their kids study in UK

flyer168 said...

"Reforming Our Education System."

Syed,

Just incase we have fotgotten...

SPEECH TEXT
YANG AMAT BERBAHAGIA TUN AHMAD SARJI ABDUL HAMID
AT THE INAUGURAL TUN ABDUL RAZAK LECTURE SERIES
11 MARCH 2009

:"...2. The term “father” metaphorically refers to a person who is considered the founder of a body of knowledge or of an institution or of a program.

In such context, the meaning of "father" is similar to that of "founder".

This term “father” is most often used in the reverential treatment of a nation’s history.

In Malaysia, we have bestowed that honorific title to four of our
Prime Ministers, namely:

(i) Tunku Abdul Rahman Putra al-Haj (1957 – 1970), as “Father of
Independence”, and “Father of Malaysia”;

(ii) Tun Abdul Razak Hussein (1970 – 1976), “Father of Development”;

(iii) Tun Hussein Onn (1976 – 1981), “Father of Unity” (1976 –
1981), and

(iv) Tun Dr. Mahathir Mohamad (1981 – 2003), “Father of Modernization”.

3. When Tun Abdul Razak was appointed Minister of Education, he turned immediately to the development of an education policy that would be "a charter” for the children of an independent Malaya.

"The Razak Report on Education in Malaya" stamps him as a leader firmly dedicated to the ideal of
a united Malayan nation.

Malay as a National language in education was accepted by all and contained in the Razak Report. As Tun Razak himself noted: "with patience, understanding and goodwill we were able to produce
a national education policy . . . formulated to give our children the best education possible to make them useful and loyal citizens of our country. . .
.every type of school has been brought under our national system of education and has been given equal treatment."

4. Tun Abdul Razak’s heritage in the education sector was the creation of MARA, the Institute of Technology MARA and the Universiti Kebangsaan Malaysia. Following the first Bumiputera Economic Congress, RIDA was transformed into Majlis Amanah Rakyat (MARA) “to give a facelift and a new
life” to the new organization, so stated Tun Razak. MARA’s primary function was to stimulate, assist and facilitate Bumiputera participation in commerce
and industry.

The beginning of ITM (formerly MARA College) was attributed
to Tun Razak who monitored the institution closely. His mission for the Institute was to make available to Bumiputera courses in business, accountancy, commerce and secretarial studies, applied sciences, engineering etc. Tun Razak saw the dire need to increase the number of Bumiputera in both professional and semi-professional areas.

Tun Razak’s other lasting legacies in the field of educational development was the emergence of the MARA Junior Science College.

He was also the man behind the drive to build Universiti Kebangsaan Malaysia (UKM) in 1970.

The position of the Malays in tertiary education was improved abruptly with the establishment of UKM.

One of the reasons for the establishment of UKM was to provide opportunities for those who had difficulty to proceed to
tertiary education due to their lack of competence in the English language...."

Sad to say that the "Noble Visions" of our Tunku Abdul Rahman Putra al-Haj (1957 – 1970), as “Father of Independence”, and “Father of Malaysia” and Tun Abdul Razak Hussein (1970 – 1976), “Father of Development” has been "Hijacked, corrupted and Destroyed" by Jibby, his deputy and UMNO 2009 - 2012

You be the judge.

Sesungguhnya segala puji milik Allah subhanahu wata'ala. Kita ...
http://www.unirazak.edu.my/tpl/upload/files/tarls/TARLS_Speech.pdf - Cached

Mar 11, 2009 ... When Tun Abdul Razak was appointed Minister of Education, he turned immediately to the development of an education policy that would be "a ... Professor Milton J. Esman in his book “Administration and Development in ..."

Shalom.

Anonymous said...

1. abolish all venacular system including sekolah agama.
2. introduce national education system for all. free of charge for all children of malaysia. anak pendatang pun takpa. why deprive children from receiving education?
3. one session school say from 8am to 4pm. JKR has been building schools for 3 decades... tak cukup2lagi kah? teach national education system say until noon. break for lunch. after lunch in the same compound allow the children to choose other electives; nak belajar agama ke? mandarin ke? tamil ke? french ke? spanish ke? pilih mana nak.. our children will be safer at school.
4. boarding schools are for underprivileged students. tapi yg dok enroll masuk semua anak orang2 senang...tak percaya spend one weekend at any of these schools, you will know what i mean (hint:cars)
5. education system review panelist, TF, AMOK and Zarinah... seriously???....

SAS

Anonymous said...

Recently whilst boarding to catch a flight back to Malaysia from Australia, a caption advertised on the bridge by an international bank stated that at present time, out of every 25 Chinese citizen, 20 of them are now studying English.
Imagine, if we have that statistic in Malaysia, the sky is the limit.

Anonymous said...

Best lagi jadi guru agama -Kerja dia senang aje - Sebuk advice murid2 ppoan pakai tudung/hijab.Repeat al fatihah dari mula sampai hujung tahun, sounds Arabic enough, ok - pass. Kelas dia tak susah ajar bab murid2 semua tido bila dia buka mulut. dia pon nampak kepenatan sangat bab tengah buncit sarat (utk kali ke 8 ke 9 dalam 8 tahun dia di sekolah ). Maklum lah -Madu, stress nak jaga hati sang suami yg hebat 4 bini. Silap bulan dapat sms special nanti.Anak2 ppoan dia baby lagi dah pakai tudung, bab dia di kelilingi jantan2 yang tak tau menguasai nafsu kan. Hujung bulan check masuk.

PAGE supporter said...

You and Datin Azimah of PAGE should be in National Education System Evaluation Panel!!!

Anonymous said...

The main problem is that our politians are having different agenda. They want to win votes and having the mentality that their language has to be upholded to the highest degree. To summarise, human in boleh land are self centered ( jual ikan ).

Anonymous said...

Dear anon 12.31 and 9.44, pls check ur facts right la. And also pls read between the lines of wat was written by tuan syed.

Our education system was destroyed by none other than tun razak la. He was the one who rolled out the backbone of our rotten education system we hv today...

Anonymous said...

If only the teachers are left alone to teach...With NKRA, teachers have to file reports after reports. A panel head has 10 files to manage. This does not include being put in charge of games, students welfare, kelas tambahan, etc etc and on top of that, you must teach and motivate and be first class teacher!Theres just too much of multitasking!! Please dont harp on the half-day job..When you have to walk from one building to another every 40 mins, climb up stairs and sweat in poor ventilated room...a 9 - to 5 working hours will see many teachers sleeping on the job!

Anonymous said...

Tuan Syed,

Saya sokong 100% pasal bab indoctrinataion "taliban" kat sekolah2 gomen ni.

Saya dah lama dok peghati benda2 ni sbb anak2 saya masuk sekolah kebangsaan. Yg pompuan depa dok paksa pakai tudung. Tak pakai cikgu2 dan mullah2 kat sekolah depa dok harrass dan malukan depa depan murid2 lain. Depa kena perli dan dihina dalam kelas dgn panggilan bakal ahli neraka.. tak ke stress budak2 muda tu.. kecik2 dah dipanggil ahli neraka. Sukan kat sekolah suma kena pakai tudung (scarf pon tak bole) dan pakai trek bottom.. main sukan tgh panas pakai baju lagu tu. Macam mana budak2 ni nak perform dan ada minat nak bersukan?? Pasal tu kita ni kehabisan sport talents. Budak jantan pon pi suruh main bola pakai trek bottom...gila cikgu2 sekolah ni..yg pompuan tak bole main sukan2 yg "menggegarkan buah dada".. bimbang kalau ianya bakal menaikkan napsu binatang ustad2 kat sekolah..bimbang di rogol oleh ostad2..

Lagi satu. Sekolah kita ni mmg dah jadi mini Taliban. Sikit2 doa, sikit2 doa. Masuk kelas doa, keluar kelas doa, masuk tandas doa, keluar tandas doa, nak makan doa, habis makan doa, habis kelas doa, nak balik doa, naik bas doa, turun bas doa... dll... bodo tetap bodo jugak budak2 ni.. jadi setan dan merempit tetap jugak jadi setan.. tak lah baik mana akhlak depa ni.. padahal doa sampai berbuih mulut..pakai tudung litup tapi amal seks bebas lebih dari sekolah cina..

Kita dulu skolah tahun 70'an mana ada benda2 mengarut lagu ni.. tapi alhamdullilah kita tak ada pon kes2 buang anak dan merempit.. sukan kita excellent.. budak2 pompuan dulu PE pakai shorts sama dgn budak lelaki.. tak dak pulak kes rogol atau menaikkan napsu ka apa??

Semua pon ok.. pasal apa sekarang ni kita berebut2 nak jadi macam sekolah taliban dan saudi?? pasai apa dok bawak balik budak2 belajar sekolah arab jadi cikgu kat sekolah kebangsaan?? Pasai apa?

Yg terakhir tuan Syed. Anak saya darjah 2 depa suruh blajar bahasa arab. Kena extend waktu balik another 1 hour sbb nak kena blajar bahsa arab. Wajib. Tak hadir kena tulis nama dan di ambil tindakan. Parents komplen depa kata sila komplen ke kementerian kalau berani..

Kononnnya belajar bahasa arab bole jadi celik quran... up yours jawapan saya.. saya nak anak saya celik sains and maths.. bukan celik bahsa arab... bodo punya kementrian...

Bapa yg kecewa dgn sekolah kebangsaan

Anonymous said...

really 'shiok sendiri', if we are better than US, Uk,..then all the smart students in the world should rush to apply to study in UM, USM , UKM etc instead of applying to harvard, oxford..

ya! ustaz always say need more religious studies hour because of moral decay in the society, when social problems occur, they say not enough religious knowledge...no ending,keep adding hours.. the non-malays are more practical,if their kids are interested in religion,they send their kids to religious class after school

Anonymous said...

Tuan Syed,

For the first time, i agree with you completely with what you have written.There is no need for the EM/DPM to form any panel and getting monkeys to sit on it,and come out with more nonsense.

But the sad truth is that,your good ideas will not be welcome, simply because i dont think the powers that be is really interested in doing anything to improve the present standard of our education system.Lagipun we are rank 14th in the world, not good enough meh ?

Anonymous said...

The other day my son came back from school and said that two teachers were absent - one because of pregnancy complications and another down with flu. No relief teachers. So I asked what he did. He said they only chatted amongst themselves until the next class's teacher came and told them to tone down their voices.

In those days, we had relief teachers, now tak ada. Children left to their own devices.

Anonymous said...

Saya sangat sangat setuju dengan bapa yang kecewa dengan sekolah kebangsaan

Anonymous said...

Hello Anon 10.21am, I totally agree. A colleague of mine, Chinese, sent his son to Year 1 kebangsaan school near his house. And because of the everything doa, the son came home and perform the doa too. My colleague quickly transferred his son out to another kebangsaan school in PJ, far from his house, which is not so religious oriented.

African Bee said...

Reforming our education system? or fishing for votes in the run up of the upcoming election....If they are really sincere they would have done this much earlier... it's all about politics and damn the politicians!