Ok its over. Here are some pictures. Malaysiakini bullshit said 100,000 had gathered. Here are their headlines.
100 ribu banjiri stadium? Here is a view of Stadium Merdeka taken during the Himpunan. You can see the stadium was still half empty. Remember this is a 30,000 capacity stadium (sitting capacity).
Here is another picture of Stadium Merdeka later in the day. I think this was taken at maximum crowd. The seats are pretty filled up - ok 30,000 capacity. There are people on the football pitch as well say 3000 - 5000 max.
Our boys said 40,000 were present. I doubt it. Max maybe 35,000 people.
Dont forget this is rent a crowd. Dapat free T shirt '112', free headband, free makan and air botol (for the tear gas). Siapa bayar? And they still cant get even 50,000 people? Forget about 100,000. And one million? Thats just a cool number ok?
Now here is a mystery. The Gomen offered the Himpunan folks the use of the Bukit Jalil Stadium which has a 100,000 seat capacity. They turned down the offer. Instead they accepted the Stadium Merdeka with a smaller 30,000 seat capacity.
On hindsight this was a major face saving device. Imagine putting 35,000 people in a 100,000 capacity stadium. It will look only 1/3 full. At least the smaller Stadium Merdeka looked full with less than 40,000 people. They avoided "ditimpa kemaluan besar".
If you want to see a 100,000 man crowd at the Stadium Bukit Jalil here it is. This is a mega crowd - rented or not rented. This is a lot of people.
Here is some analysis. Folks say Anwar Ibrahim made a lacklustre speech. He is probably preoccupied with the court case next week where Shamsidar Taharin will likely have to appear as a witness and suffer cross examination. Aiyyo. Ini semua itu Nallakaruppan punya pasai.
He is also not satisfied with today's gathering because it was too quiet. No attacking the Police, no overturning Police cars, no breaking windows or taunting the FRU. Too boring. This is just not his style.
Ever since the fake Baling riots of 1974 (where it is still a mystery what was the name of anyone who died of starvation there) the brader's signature has been rioting and running wild in the streets.
Walking quietly, sitting quietly inside a stadium is just not his style. Dia lebih suka gangnam style rioting. It is also likely that if they organise another peaceful himpunan inside a stadium like this, no one will come. These folks are not used to gathering peacefully.
N'theless it was an achievement by the Himpunan folks and we salute their peaceful gathering. They can gather peacefully. It is not impossible. I hope this will set the standard for the Pakatan folks for the future. There is no need to run riot in the streets.
The Chinese were ABSENT in large numbers today. They even got the Malays to carry the DAP banners and T shirts. Here are two pictures courtesy of The Unspinners :
There was a smattering of Indians. The boys smsed that the lembus were PAS. They provided the manpower, the numbers and the organisation. The only benefit to them was that most of the flags were PAS flags. There were very few PKR flags being waved and I did not see one DAP flag in town. (Inside the stadium saya tak tahu lah).
Apo nak di kato? Rela jadi lembu lagi.
There was a smattering of Indians. The boys smsed that the lembus were PAS. They provided the manpower, the numbers and the organisation. The only benefit to them was that most of the flags were PAS flags. There were very few PKR flags being waved and I did not see one DAP flag in town. (Inside the stadium saya tak tahu lah).
Did they achieve anything? There is only one way to find out. Today is Saturday. See if by Monday this event still crosses your mind for any useful reason at all. If it does not, then you know it has not achieved anything.






48 comments:
Dear Syed,
Which method did you use to calculate and tabulate?
If you are using Microsoft Excel we will hear some adjustments in 2 weeks time.
JPP
You can take your camera where and when but others can too!!
Salam sahabat, my take BN Dan PR dua dua lembu. Kalau masa election. Lembu A, lembu B Dan kambing bertanding, aku pilih kambing sebab beraknya kurang bau. Pak Andir.
Sudah tentulah only few Yahudi Asia and Yahudi DAP will be there because they already know they have played their firestone@ batu api untuk melaga lagakan sesama Melayu dan berbunuhan sesama Islam.
Biar semua melayu ni mampos di stadium dengan berantakan dengan Polis2 Melayu. Bila semuanya dah hancur senanglah si Yahudi Asia ni ambil alih Malaysia di GE/PRU13 nanti macam yang dibuat olih Yahudi SingaPORK 30 lebih tahun dahulu.
Kesian Melayu benda mainan Yahudi Asia macam ni pun masih tak nampak walau pun dah lebih 50 tahun merdeka dan ramai Melayu yang dah berdiploma dan berijazah serta berdoktoran/PhD.
Apabila Yahudi Malaysia ni mempermainkan isu ALLAH maka kita semua sudah tahu yang Melayu akan berselisih sesama sendiri.
Aku tak bolih nak bayangkan apabila sikafir dan kristian apabila minum arak atau makan babi atau sedang syok berzina menyebut nama ALLAH sebagai pembuka kata seperti mana kita orang Islam menyebut kalimah ALLAH yang Maha Pengasih lagi Penyayang apabila hendak makan, minum, menaiki kereta dan sebagainya.....
paksyed,
today HKR112 is very2 boring. no provocation, no kicking police, no riots or whatsoever. Even when online FB i cannot see any hot scenery pictures, all just people walking ramai2 macam pergi piknik.
talk about picnic. there are some makcik2 melayu yang bodoh ni that brought along their children from the age of 4,5 years old to TODDLER. baby in stroller. seriously? they didn't think ka what if suddenly someone gone crazy and there's a riot around, people running and pushing and kicking. with some tear gas and water spray...now what would makcik tu buat if those situations did happen? well, the baby gonna get lost, fall on the road and get stampeded by the peserta2. next morning put all the blame on the police. Genius.
Syed.
800,000 or 500,000 or 100,000 or 80,000 or 40,000 doesnt matter.They came on their own,no free bus,no free food,no pocket money.
BN/UMNO gathering,,you need o oide the buses,give free food ,pay pocket money and you need event manager.
Syed ProBN....the police limited the demo to 30,000 ( Read The Star ) so the turn out of about 35,000 minus or plus is quite a force. I live at Bukit Jalil, the one organised by BN saw loads and loads of chartered buses from government institutions which also includes those attending National Servivce ! So, the volume of this demo is quite a strength, consisting of introvertly motivated rakyats. Salute!
Ada gambar melayu jadi lembu dap. Dap yang akan hancurkan orang melayu, termasuk yang sokong dap!
Sama ada himpunan ini capai objektif atau tidak, itu bukan jadi hal yg perlu diukur.. Yg jelas & pasti generasi muda melayu abad 21 dah mula berpolar..polarization..hasil dpd amalan berpolitik yg berorientasikan pecah-belah-fitnah yg memusnahkan semangat permuakatan..yg menyuburkan evaporation of trust..yg menjerumuskan ke arah prolong systemic instabilty & weakness amongst the Malays..yg menggembirakan pencinta NWO serta kuncu-kuncunya. It's high time for a turning point..RD5
Very right! The demo does not meet the expectations and intent of Liwat who just want to "test power". Sad, 99% MELAYU. Perhaps the government can invite the PR to host one more peaceful demo before the elections to again 'test power' the liwat guy. This time around, the govt can offer to provide free mineral water to the participants..reverse psychology. Make Stadium Bukit Jalil the venue. With government throwing support for free speech, free expression and peaceful demo to the mob, you think people will come in droves?? Think about it.
Pak Syed.
Just wonder where are the stretagists in PR.In the aspect of morale and psyops the failed in achieving their objective.In the first place they should put the target of having 30k supporters and if more participated it is a bonus.By this way their creditability will be intact.But by targeting 1 million,they are only making fools of themselves in the eyes of the rakyat.Too ambitious and we are not surprise there will be thousands of excuses and reasons to compensate their failure.Oh, before I forget if not mistaken the chief organiser is Mat Sabu,correct me if I am wrong.
why they chose KL112 instead of KL121? Malaysia still use 12 January not January 1. Could it be because of this link http://www.biblewheel.com/GR/GR_112.php?
saa - sounds like sour grapes to you
Kat sini kot 100K
http://www.harian-metro-online.com/kl112-tahniah-semua
The IPF gathering in Semenyih where Najib attended had 15,000 people - semua Indians. This news was reported by Bernama and tomorrow be assured an altered photoshop picture will appear to show the massive show of support for Najib.
Bila anak muda Melayu jalan bawa bendera roket dan anak muda Cina jalan bawa bendera PAS adalah petanda tak lama lagi Najib dan Barisan Nasional sudah berada dalam bayangan sakratulmaut.
Sampai sekarang Najib dan BN still frightened to call for General Election despite claiming that BN will win. No wonder DPM Muhiddin quietly licking his lips for he knows Najib's goose is cooked.
Tuan Syed sour grape ker?
Apa susah sangat - 20 thousand ke, 30 thousand ke...PM had 15 thousand in Semenyih, DPM had 30 thousand in Bentong...they are all moot points kan. In the coming months we will have the questions answered at the ballot box. So lets not waste time, get in with more important things. Too much time and resources have already been wasted.
Steve, yg pegi bawa anak kecil tu semuanya lebih bodoh dari lembu..lembu pun tau sayang anak tapi diorang ni mana sayang anak...tu yang diorang bawa anak2 kecil tanpa memikirkan keselatan mereka...depa ni tak ada akal. Full Stop
Young children, toddlers and even infants brought to the HKR 112 at their peril. These parents obviously need a lot of parenting themselves.
Based on this blog, the number of crowd between 37K - 45K
http://chewal.blogspot.kr/2013/01/anggaran-sebenar-jumlah-peserta-hkr.html
Syed,
Don't estimate if you are not there. I was there. The crowd peaked at around 3pm. Inside the stadium was at least 60-70k. Some 20k were lingering outside the stadium. Next time go and see yourself. Just become an observer like the Bar Council or Suhakam. It will do you good to see for yourself. The picture you published was taken 2-3 hrs before 2 pm. I know you hate Anwar so much but please give credit when it is due. Report correctly.
dear sir,
pictures don't lie...the stadium was full to the brink...the seats were all filled up = 40,000..the field was all filled up = 15,000....then outside the stadium = easily more than 40,000....
so there were more than 100,000 people who went to the rally and millions more at home who support the cause..
only time will tell whether BN or PR will form the next govt..
what a cheap shot from highly intelligent person like you
Good things we have the internet. There are lots more photos on the internet to the contrary to what is reported in your blog. I will judge for myself. A photo speaks a thousand words.
So bila GE?
Chill dude... Seems like you swallowed a whole load of vinegar there.
No need to call others name & criticize others whilst acting like a holy man. That's being a sanctimonious b@$t@rd in my book. Don't tell me there are no Muslims in this country or for that matter, worldwide who don't consume alcohol or commit adultery/fornication? As for pork consumption, I reserve my judgment on that.
Just because your religion forbids such acts don't make it illegal for others too you know? Correct me if I'm wrong but Islam encourages engagement & respect with other religions no?
Why would you say that they EVEN got Malays to carry DAP banners in that tone of disbelief?
Ironically, as far as I've seen, DAP is pretty much the only multiracial party in the whole election race.
Fine by me.
Better boring than bloodshed.
I guess both the demosntrators and the police did well this time.
Even though the demonstrators bringing children along flouted the rules the organisers already agreed to.
Syed.... you are trying to be like the gomen, trying to bluff us all most of the time. What ? You think we have pea brains. Thinking guys like you can do such thing as to bluff with photos. What? " Takut hilang projectkah?" "Insaf sedikitlah!" Shame on you!!!
Anon 8.17 - When dilussioned muslim commit sins they don`t start their act with the word ALLAH. For they know they are in the wrong but you all kafir harbi cannot diferentiate it!
I know this bloody Yahudi Asia or may be that pig Yahudi Dap camouflaged as Anon 8.17 is one of those bastard who is not very happy as the Malays in the stadium did not fight with each other or the police personnel.
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Anon 8.17 the day will come when we will go after you and your kind..
Anon 8.17 Islam always encourage engagements and respect for other religions. It is other religions and you who cannot accept criticism as well as understanding us in the multi racial nation like ours that is worrying me.
The Malay muslims have been honourable in accomodating other races and religions in this nation before and after merdeka. You people don`t even have the self honour to respect even our national language and our sultans and worst still the biggest `firestone` in Malaysia!
Anon 8.17.. memang aku dah agak anjing DAP macam kau akan mula bersuara to stir the hornest nest..ha ha ha. Memang betul lah Yahudi....
Bahalol punya Anon 8.17. You want to eat Pork,consume alcohol or engage in adultery that`s your problem lah. We Islam do not want you to use the word ALLAH when commit all these in your satanic act. Bodoh! Simple English also don`t understand. Stupid!
Million at home cannot count la bro.. Awat tak masuk lembu kambing sekali sokong
Anon 8.43,
Hahaha, don't kid urself...DAP multiracial? They have to adjust their own election result in order to put a pseudo-"malay" (actually a chinese) in the CEC....n that after two weeks of some freaky soul-searching. How multiracial is that?
Tuan Syed
I bet you less than 1% of the KL112 participants know anything about the 10 point declaration. That is immaterial to them. Most are just Malay lembus that have no inlking why they are there except to oppose BN
BTW 121 is an interesting number. Why not 112 which is more logical. Anon 10:42 made an interesting comment regarding this
Tuan Syed,
You are an intellegent person and I am sure you know this is the age of the internet where news and blogposts are verified.
Obviously you thought of the BN trick of downplaying the size of the crowd with "clever" pictures.
I know you don't read Chinese but have a look at the front pages of Chinese papers. The stadium is filled to the rafters and look at all the other pictures. You will then know that the crowd is enough to prove you wrong. And no photoshop programe was used, tak macam Straits Times and Bernama.
perception is important, the media battle has begin
most of them ,that take parts in the rally are malays.
UMNO is facing 'enemy' from own race.
malays will decide the fate of the nation, not the minority
Tuan Syed,
Looks like your photographer took his pictures too early in the day :)
http://tinyurl.com/a4r3z6f
1 malay in the stadium represent 10 malays who not able to attend in the day but they are truly suppoters. See... perception is power.
heeeee..Ha! successful democracy . This shows rally /demonstration can be peaceful.
Mayb u shud chill too because we never stop people of othet religions to pratice their belief in msia. But as usual humans likes ti take advantage of about anything muslims or kafirs. Dont pork/poke fire. But we forgot again our mistake keep on taking your complains.
Mmg irresponsible and selfish parents indeed.
Sapa kata tak byr mat beruang kenalan guai sj mengeteh pergi dapat 30 rgt dan t shirt free. Haha balek rumah tshirt buat lap kaki.
Betul..haha nanti bila dah trgolek dog termasok dgn anak2nya skali mudah nak salah tanah gomen buat tak rata padahal kepala hotak yg dah tak rata. Dahan patah tgh jalan pon salahkan gomen klau tidak salahkan tuhan. Hehehe yg senang makan cucokan masih melayu bodoh baik yg berpelajaran rendah atau tinggi. Dap senyum lebar yumseng masih berseronok bertepok tangan plan apa akan d buatnya sesudah menang nanti kpd pak2 dan mak2 sanggup. DAYUSSSS.
Hahaha thy hv make anwaritas as the dayuss of the year
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